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> Every single one of your examples has to do with gender, not ethnic diversity like the original article was talking about. It's interesting that you interpre

> Every single one of your examples has to do with gender, not ethnic diversity like the original article was talking about. It's interesting that you interpreted it that way. The author states that "diversity discussion is utterly broken", and I agree he focuses on race, but at no point did he constrain his criticism that to a particular sub-set of diversity. In addition: i) The article even opens with a lengthy movie reference (complete with a huge lead image) about the arrival of a woman at a previously all-male news team. ii) From the article: "We’re turning race or gender into a crutch being used as an excuse for real or perceived failures." iii) From the article: "Their goal is to help startups take proper steps to hire more women and minorities." I don't think there's much wiggle room on the intent of the author, stated or implied. I can only assume that either you didn't read the article completely or that you're attempting to move the goalposts; either consciously or due to confirmation bias. > Could you submit some evidence about under-represented groups? We could get into evidence for ethnic/racial bias if you really want to; but first I'd rather address the issue of why you feel like you need to move the discussion away from gender. Until we get past that problem, citing further evidence would likely just polarise the discussion and lead nowhere.

jimmywanger 10y ago
> The author states that "diversity discussion is utterly broken", and I agree he focuses on race... My point was that the response's studies focus exclusively on gender, not on race at all, making it not as applicable to the article had he spoken to race at all in his reponse. Instead, he says "people discriminate against both gender and race" and only backs up the "discriminate against gender" argument.
- richmarr 10y ago
  > Instead, he says "people discriminate against both gender and race" and only backs up the "discriminate against gender" argument. First you (incorrectly) complain that the article is only about racial diversity. Now you're complaining because I haven't provided evidence to back up every part of my original comment. I'll say again; I'm happy to get into racial diversity, but until we can clarify exactly why you want to dismiss the evidence I've shared on gender diversity I don't think it would be a productive use of my time. Engage in a conversation. Share an opinion. If you just want to sit back and snipe, saying "you didn't back up that bit, show me studies" you can do it with someone else.

jimmywanger 10y ago

> The author states that "diversity discussion is utterly broken", and I agree he focuses on race... My point was that the response's studies focus exclusively on gender, not on race at all, making it not as applicable to the article had he spoken to race at all in his reponse. Instead, he says "people discriminate against both gender and race" and only backs up the "discriminate against gender" argument.

richmarr 10y ago
> Instead, he says "people discriminate against both gender and race" and only backs up the "discriminate against gender" argument. First you (incorrectly) complain that the article is only about racial diversity. Now you're complaining because I haven't provided evidence to back up every part of my original comment. I'll say again; I'm happy to get into racial diversity, but until we can clarify exactly why you want to dismiss the evidence I've shared on gender diversity I don't think it would be a productive use of my time. Engage in a conversation. Share an opinion. If you just want to sit back and snipe, saying "you didn't back up that bit, show me studies" you can do it with someone else.