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There are plenty of university/public domain GMOs as well. Your stance is analogous to not using any software because you don't like Microsoft's closed source

There are plenty of university/public domain GMOs as well. Your stance is analogous to not using any software because you don't like Microsoft's closed source model.

wehadfun 10y ago
Yea you can live without SQL server and Microsoft Word.
gmac 10y ago
Not really. We know MS is closed, we know Linux is open. I have yet to see a GMO product that specifies the licencing of the relevant genome.
- BeetleB 10y ago
  Because the license doesn't apply to you - it applies to farmers, etc. It's like creating a video using licensed/patented technology and then complaining that the video doesn't specify the license information.
  - tedunangst 10y ago
    Or refusing to read a book because the author wrote it in MS Word.
nommm-nommm 10y ago
Which specific GMOs are public domain?
- DanBC 10y ago
  Some significant NGOs (notable WHO) had concerns about patents in "golden rice" (rice with vitamin A) and so owners of the patents made agreements about not prosecuting farmers making less than $10,000 for seed keeping. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9516376#9517286 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9516376#9517286 The WHO link there appears to be dead.
- terravion 10y ago
  Almost any papaya you eat in the US is GMO. https://gmoanswers.com/studies/gm-papaya-saved-hawaii-papaya-industry https://gmoanswers.com/studies/gm-papaya-saved-hawaii-papaya...
- SloopJon 10y ago
  I remember reading a story about some generic GMOs not too long ago. Can't find it here on HN, but it might have been this, or something similar: https://www.technologyreview.com/s/539746/as-patents-expire-farmers-plant-generic-gmos/ https://www.technologyreview.com/s/539746/as-patents-expire-... Basically, a variant of a twenty year-old version of Roundup Ready soybeans.
- a_bonobo 10y ago
  Golden Rice is under free licenses for developing countries, farmers are permitted to keep/reseed for free, if you're outside the specially permitted countries you get to keep the license for free if you stay below $10,000 earnings: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_rice#Distribution https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_rice#Distribution There are also some off-patent GM varieties where the patent has expired, but the technology is so new. The first Monsanto Bt patent has expired in 2015, so now there's at least one variety from the University of Arkansas selling their own variety based on that patent: https://www.biofortified.org/2014/12/off-patent-gmo-soybeans-what-happens-now/ https://www.biofortified.org/2014/12/off-patent-gmo-soybeans...

There are plenty of university/public domain GMOs as well. Your stance is analogous to not using any software because you don't like Microsoft's closed source model.

wehadfun 10y ago

Yea you can live without SQL server and Microsoft Word.

gmac 10y ago

Not really. We know MS is closed, we know Linux is open. I have yet to see a GMO product that specifies the licencing of the relevant genome.

BeetleB 10y ago
Because the license doesn't apply to you - it applies to farmers, etc. It's like creating a video using licensed/patented technology and then complaining that the video doesn't specify the license information.
- tedunangst 10y ago
  Or refusing to read a book because the author wrote it in MS Word.

nommm-nommm 10y ago

Which specific GMOs are public domain?

DanBC 10y ago
Some significant NGOs (notable WHO) had concerns about patents in "golden rice" (rice with vitamin A) and so owners of the patents made agreements about not prosecuting farmers making less than $10,000 for seed keeping. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9516376#9517286 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9516376#9517286 The WHO link there appears to be dead.
terravion 10y ago
Almost any papaya you eat in the US is GMO. https://gmoanswers.com/studies/gm-papaya-saved-hawaii-papaya-industry https://gmoanswers.com/studies/gm-papaya-saved-hawaii-papaya...
SloopJon 10y ago
I remember reading a story about some generic GMOs not too long ago. Can't find it here on HN, but it might have been this, or something similar: https://www.technologyreview.com/s/539746/as-patents-expire-farmers-plant-generic-gmos/ https://www.technologyreview.com/s/539746/as-patents-expire-... Basically, a variant of a twenty year-old version of Roundup Ready soybeans.
a_bonobo 10y ago
Golden Rice is under free licenses for developing countries, farmers are permitted to keep/reseed for free, if you're outside the specially permitted countries you get to keep the license for free if you stay below $10,000 earnings: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_rice#Distribution https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_rice#Distribution There are also some off-patent GM varieties where the patent has expired, but the technology is so new. The first Monsanto Bt patent has expired in 2015, so now there's at least one variety from the University of Arkansas selling their own variety based on that patent: https://www.biofortified.org/2014/12/off-patent-gmo-soybeans-what-happens-now/ https://www.biofortified.org/2014/12/off-patent-gmo-soybeans...