3 ms·

Part of the issue is their desire to keep the product vegan. Instead of using known-safe, health-promoting sources of polyunsaturated (O3/O6) fats like fish oil

by briHass 10y ago

Part of the issue is their desire to keep the product vegan. Instead of using known-safe, health-promoting sources of polyunsaturated (O3/O6) fats like fish oil, they use algal sources, which have very little data supporting them as safe/effective sources of O3.

the8472 10y ago
> Which have very little data supporting them as safe/effective sources of O3. Someone has to be the first to gather the data.
- st3v3r 10y ago
  That shouldn't be paying customers.
  - greendragon 10y ago
    Unless a lot of their customers are vegan.
  - the8472 10y ago
    I do assume the supplier first tested the toxicity on animals. Then soylent did internal tests with the new ingredients and found no problems either. How else are you going to find 1:10000+ problems?
atomical 10y ago
http://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/fish-oil-friend-or-foe-201307126467 http://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/fish-oil-friend-or-foe-20... There are other safe sources of omega 3's.
- briHass 10y ago
  The sources mentioned in that article are ALA, which have conversion rates to the desired DHA/EPA that vary greatly between individuals [1]. Typically, something like 5% of ALA is converted to EPA and even less is converted to DHA. It's better to eat the preformed DHA/EPA rather than relying on the conversion. edit: Harvard health seems to even disagree with themselves: http://www.health.harvard.edu/staying-healthy/why-not-flaxseed-oil http://www.health.harvard.edu/staying-healthy/why-not-flaxse... [1] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9637947 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9637947
botexpert 10y ago
There are good quality studies on vegans showing pollutant free omega 3 algal source works extraordinarily well. [1] Keeping the product vegan is an image choice that many similar companies take. [1]: http://www.clinicalnutritionjournal.com/article/S0261-5614(14)00076-4/abstract http://www.clinicalnutritionjournal.com/article/S0261-5614(1...

by briHass 10y ago

the8472 10y ago

> Which have very little data supporting them as safe/effective sources of O3. Someone has to be the first to gather the data.

st3v3r 10y ago
That shouldn't be paying customers.
- greendragon 10y ago
  Unless a lot of their customers are vegan.
- the8472 10y ago
  I do assume the supplier first tested the toxicity on animals. Then soylent did internal tests with the new ingredients and found no problems either. How else are you going to find 1:10000+ problems?

atomical 10y ago

http://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/fish-oil-friend-or-foe-201307126467 http://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/fish-oil-friend-or-foe-20... There are other safe sources of omega 3's.

briHass 10y ago
The sources mentioned in that article are ALA, which have conversion rates to the desired DHA/EPA that vary greatly between individuals [1]. Typically, something like 5% of ALA is converted to EPA and even less is converted to DHA. It's better to eat the preformed DHA/EPA rather than relying on the conversion. edit: Harvard health seems to even disagree with themselves: http://www.health.harvard.edu/staying-healthy/why-not-flaxseed-oil http://www.health.harvard.edu/staying-healthy/why-not-flaxse... [1] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9637947 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9637947

botexpert 10y ago

There are good quality studies on vegans showing pollutant free omega 3 algal source works extraordinarily well. [1] Keeping the product vegan is an image choice that many similar companies take. [1]: http://www.clinicalnutritionjournal.com/article/S0261-5614(14)00076-4/abstract http://www.clinicalnutritionjournal.com/article/S0261-5614(1...