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Also............ no vim key. Kill me

by Exuma 10y ago

Veen 10y ago
The lower tier model does have an escape key. For Touch Bar machines, there will be an escape "key" on the touch bar, which I don't think will be much more inconvenient than reaching for the actual escape key. Lots of Vim users map that key to something else anyway — it's not well placed for such a commonly used key.
striking 10y ago
Ctrl-[ is a better Escape, though. (and is enabled by default in Vim, in your terminal, and Vim modes in other editors.) You don't even have to lift your fingers off the home row.
- Matthias247 10y ago
  However it's a console escape key, which means it doesn't work in graphical applications (VS Code, Atom, IDEs, ...). You might also want vim mode there. Or want easy access to escape for other reasons (intellisense can sometimes be annoying, ...).
  - striking 10y ago
    Sublime's Vim mode (https://www.sublimetext.com/docs/2/vintage.html https://www.sublimetext.com/docs/2/vintage.html) > Vintage supports these ctrl key bindings: * Ctrl+[: Escape [... others] Atom-vim-mode-plus has it by default. https://github.com/t9md/atom-vim-mode-plus/blob/master/keymaps/vim-mode-plus.cson#L14 https://github.com/t9md/atom-vim-mode-plus/blob/master/keyma... VSCodeVim doesn't have it by default, but it's an option. https://github.com/VSCodeVim/Vim#usectrlkeys https://github.com/VSCodeVim/Vim#usectrlkeys If you need Escape, there is always a way to get it. Whether you bind the touch bar top-left to Escape (which you should in an editing application basically and nowhere else) or you use the widely-held Ctrl-[ default bind from your favorite Vim mode. Plus, the agency of being able to dynamically rebind the rest of the keys or use it as a separate HUD could be seen as useful. I agree the MacBookPro 2016 is bad. But this is a stupid reason to think it's bad.
- Exuma 10y ago
  I use that a lot but I like both depending on what I'm doing. It also kills command+F3 which I use constantly
nashashmi 10y ago
Vim ... reimagined with a touch bar interface. Just wait.
helb 10y ago
It's easy to remap CapsLock (which is in a more convenient position than original Esc key IMO) or something to act as escape. I think i would be bothered by missing F keys more…

Also............ no vim key. Kill me

by Exuma 10y ago

Also............ no vim key. Kill me

Veen 10y ago

The lower tier model does have an escape key. For Touch Bar machines, there will be an escape "key" on the touch bar, which I don't think will be much more inconvenient than reaching for the actual escape key. Lots of Vim users map that key to something else anyway — it's not well placed for such a commonly used key.

striking 10y ago

Ctrl-[ is a better Escape, though. (and is enabled by default in Vim, in your terminal, and Vim modes in other editors.) You don't even have to lift your fingers off the home row.

Matthias247 10y ago
However it's a console escape key, which means it doesn't work in graphical applications (VS Code, Atom, IDEs, ...). You might also want vim mode there. Or want easy access to escape for other reasons (intellisense can sometimes be annoying, ...).
- striking 10y ago
  Sublime's Vim mode (https://www.sublimetext.com/docs/2/vintage.html https://www.sublimetext.com/docs/2/vintage.html) > Vintage supports these ctrl key bindings: * Ctrl+[: Escape [... others] Atom-vim-mode-plus has it by default. https://github.com/t9md/atom-vim-mode-plus/blob/master/keymaps/vim-mode-plus.cson#L14 https://github.com/t9md/atom-vim-mode-plus/blob/master/keyma... VSCodeVim doesn't have it by default, but it's an option. https://github.com/VSCodeVim/Vim#usectrlkeys https://github.com/VSCodeVim/Vim#usectrlkeys If you need Escape, there is always a way to get it. Whether you bind the touch bar top-left to Escape (which you should in an editing application basically and nowhere else) or you use the widely-held Ctrl-[ default bind from your favorite Vim mode. Plus, the agency of being able to dynamically rebind the rest of the keys or use it as a separate HUD could be seen as useful. I agree the MacBookPro 2016 is bad. But this is a stupid reason to think it's bad.
Exuma 10y ago
I use that a lot but I like both depending on what I'm doing. It also kills command+F3 which I use constantly

nashashmi 10y ago

Vim ... reimagined with a touch bar interface. Just wait.

helb 10y ago

It's easy to remap CapsLock (which is in a more convenient position than original Esc key IMO) or something to act as escape. I think i would be bothered by missing F keys more…