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"The Verge just seems to be giving in to the perennial fanboy hate whenever Apple does something new." Contemplate the alternative: new MBPs aren't announced u

by al2o3cr 10y ago

"The Verge just seems to be giving in to the perennial fanboy hate whenever Apple does something new." Contemplate the alternative: new MBPs aren't announced until Kaby Lake is ready. Analysts fill the internetz with "OMG APPLE HATES PROS, NOT INNOVATING ANYMOREZ"

hartator 10y ago
In 2012, Apple announced the new rMB with new intel CPUs which weren't released yet for PC. Now, 1/10 of PCs has Kaby Lake and Apple introduce new MacBooks with previous generation. I don't see how this is not fail compared to 2012.
- yoz-y 10y ago
  But the Kaby Lake processors that Apple wants to use (with a good integrated GPU) are not shipping yet. Also, there will not be a version of this processor with support for 32G ram until Coffee Lake apparently. Apple has decided to use this one line of processors and Intel failed to deliver a suitable one in time. Of course since this is the only new machine people naturally think that this is their only option. Hopefully Apple will release new desktop computers soon.
  - RotsiserMho 10y ago
    I think the lack of any news on other products accounts for at least 50% of the backlash. As Apple's product line stands the only products looking forward to a USB/TB3 future are laptops. Evaluated in this vacuum, the new MacBook Pro doesn't deliver. If they had showed us new iMacs and and updated Mac Pro there would be more options and more insight into what Apple's vision of that future looks like.
- hartator 10y ago
  I don't fully get why I am being downvoted. The first rMB was released with third generation Intel CPUs in mid-2012. The corresponding third generation Intel CPUs were released to the public market only in 2013: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacBook_Pro#Third_generation_.28Retina.29 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacBook_Pro#Third_generation_.... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivy_Bridge_(microarchitecture) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivy_Bridge_(microarchitecture)

by al2o3cr 10y ago

hartator 10y ago

In 2012, Apple announced the new rMB with new intel CPUs which weren't released yet for PC. Now, 1/10 of PCs has Kaby Lake and Apple introduce new MacBooks with previous generation. I don't see how this is not fail compared to 2012.

yoz-y 10y ago
But the Kaby Lake processors that Apple wants to use (with a good integrated GPU) are not shipping yet. Also, there will not be a version of this processor with support for 32G ram until Coffee Lake apparently. Apple has decided to use this one line of processors and Intel failed to deliver a suitable one in time. Of course since this is the only new machine people naturally think that this is their only option. Hopefully Apple will release new desktop computers soon.
- RotsiserMho 10y ago
  I think the lack of any news on other products accounts for at least 50% of the backlash. As Apple's product line stands the only products looking forward to a USB/TB3 future are laptops. Evaluated in this vacuum, the new MacBook Pro doesn't deliver. If they had showed us new iMacs and and updated Mac Pro there would be more options and more insight into what Apple's vision of that future looks like.
hartator 10y ago
I don't fully get why I am being downvoted. The first rMB was released with third generation Intel CPUs in mid-2012. The corresponding third generation Intel CPUs were released to the public market only in 2013: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacBook_Pro#Third_generation_.28Retina.29 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacBook_Pro#Third_generation_.... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivy_Bridge_(microarchitecture) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivy_Bridge_(microarchitecture)