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single player games are boring. EDIT: I am a competitive person. I rather play against a human being and see how I can improve then get stuck into a math/algo

by baldfat 10y ago

single player games are boring. EDIT: I am a competitive person. I rather play against a human being and see how I can improve then get stuck into a math/algorithm battle vs programmers. Solitaire is fine for a bit but all single player games feel like solitaire due to my desire to compete against others and myself.

SixSigma 10y ago
I've played computer games since the 1980s, considerable hours as a single player. I hadn't realized I was bored that whole time. Just to add: I prefer single player games. Multiplayer is a commitment. And I've been there. I put thousands of hours into Everquest and I've also put over a thousand hours into Fallout: Las Vegas. I've completed Doom. I was Elite in Elite. Finished Gran Torismo, Burnout 1 & 2. The Getaway - all great single player experiences. More recently the F.E.A.R series back to back. You can't lump single player games into a single experience.
- baldfat 10y ago
  I was also an Elite in Elite with the STUPID prism for copyright stupidity. I also made a few thousand dollars in RTS games in the 90s. Single player = figure out the math/winning algorithm Multiplayer = Competition. Playing against humans with the same rules. I am to old for basketball now my competition juices get to flow in less then 3 minutes. I jump into a game play for 5 to 60 minutes and then I can just walk away.
vinaybn 10y ago
They're fine as long as they're short enough that the novelty does not wear off. On the other hand, I can play any realtime multiplayer game without ever getting bored of it.
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jylam 10y ago
Multiplayer games are also boring. I just bought Battlefield 1, because I read there was a great solo campaign. I hope it will be fun, and I've no intention to multiplay that. I'm 36, and I really did like war games before they were that much multiplayer oriented. Call of Duty and Battlefield series had great solo campaigns, jadis. Then for a decade, there was this multiplayer trend. Being obliterated by teenagers, cursing your mom, being much greater than you. That was no fun at all. When I buy a game (especially a ~70€ worth game), I expect to have fun. I guess I'm not a great gamer, I can't spend 8 hours a day playing, so I suck at multiplayer shooting games. But I LOVE solo campaigns. I can quit, then rejoin 2 hours later, I can become better, finish a hard mission, and I'm happy with myself. I can't do this on multiplayer campaigns. Those kids are way better than me, so much better than I can't get fun. Single player games are great, also. I LOVED Metal Gear Solid V, even if it was not finished. I loved it because I could play alone, replay if I failed a mission, redo it better if I wanted to. I'm not a great player, but I still want to have fun. So multplayer games are not for me, and that's a shame.
- cloverich 10y ago
  > I can't do this on multiplayer campaigns. Those kids are way better than me, so much better than I can't get fun This is failed design. I eventually gave up on Call of Duty because while the control and bite-sized (multiplayer) games were great, there were such fundamental flaws in skill matching and team-work that it was un-enjoyable once the novelty was gone. I compare this to Overwatch and hope games will continue in this direction. Matchmaking is much more balanced and team-work is far more important. It still has a long way to go, especially in rooting out toxic players and making it easier to spontaneously group with players you like -- but its an improvement and hopefully a trend that will continue.
- josephkern 10y ago
  The question becomes what did MGS:V get correct? Even in an unfinished state I have been judging every game I've played since by comparison. I think it breaks down into a few categories; 1. Excellent controls. Probably the tightest and least obtrusive controls I've used in a long time. 2. Great characters. While the story itself isn't that great (because it's unfinished), the characters really drive the plot. 3. Amazing ambiance. I really felt that I was in Afghanistan and there were Russians I was trying to avoid. I eavesdrop on their conversations, hearing them yelling orders to each other, and even see them adapting to my tactics between missions. What makes this game a great single player campaign is ... Weight. Everything has consequences because you care about the characters. Most AAA games don't have characters anyone remembers or cares about.
scient 10y ago
Multiplayer games sadly are much more time consuming, and the older you get, the harder it is to find a regular schedule and buddies to play with. Been there, done that. I even play WoW these days mostly solo - I love the game, but can't facilitate raiding into my schedule.
- maccard 10y ago
  Thankfully most multiplayer games are coming with quick play/quick match. I can load the game, and in 2 clicks be matched with people who are roughly the same skill level as me. It's not perfect, but it's definitely more accessible than say raiding in WoW, or spending an hour playing a ranked game of League of Legends.
- baldfat 10y ago
  > Multiplayer games sadly are much more time consuming, and the older you get, the harder it is to find a regular schedule and buddies to play with Battlerite = 5 minute games Paladin = 12 minutes at most The whole market is moving to shorter games for exactly the same reason.

by baldfat 10y ago

SixSigma 10y ago

I've played computer games since the 1980s, considerable hours as a single player. I hadn't realized I was bored that whole time. Just to add: I prefer single player games. Multiplayer is a commitment. And I've been there. I put thousands of hours into Everquest and I've also put over a thousand hours into Fallout: Las Vegas. I've completed Doom. I was Elite in Elite. Finished Gran Torismo, Burnout 1 & 2. The Getaway - all great single player experiences. More recently the F.E.A.R series back to back. You can't lump single player games into a single experience.

baldfat 10y ago
I was also an Elite in Elite with the STUPID prism for copyright stupidity. I also made a few thousand dollars in RTS games in the 90s. Single player = figure out the math/winning algorithm Multiplayer = Competition. Playing against humans with the same rules. I am to old for basketball now my competition juices get to flow in less then 3 minutes. I jump into a game play for 5 to 60 minutes and then I can just walk away.

vinaybn 10y ago

They're fine as long as they're short enough that the novelty does not wear off. On the other hand, I can play any realtime multiplayer game without ever getting bored of it.

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jylam 10y ago

Multiplayer games are also boring. I just bought Battlefield 1, because I read there was a great solo campaign. I hope it will be fun, and I've no intention to multiplay that. I'm 36, and I really did like war games before they were that much multiplayer oriented. Call of Duty and Battlefield series had great solo campaigns, jadis. Then for a decade, there was this multiplayer trend. Being obliterated by teenagers, cursing your mom, being much greater than you. That was no fun at all. When I buy a game (especially a ~70€ worth game), I expect to have fun. I guess I'm not a great gamer, I can't spend 8 hours a day playing, so I suck at multiplayer shooting games. But I LOVE solo campaigns. I can quit, then rejoin 2 hours later, I can become better, finish a hard mission, and I'm happy with myself. I can't do this on multiplayer campaigns. Those kids are way better than me, so much better than I can't get fun. Single player games are great, also. I LOVED Metal Gear Solid V, even if it was not finished. I loved it because I could play alone, replay if I failed a mission, redo it better if I wanted to. I'm not a great player, but I still want to have fun. So multplayer games are not for me, and that's a shame.

cloverich 10y ago
> I can't do this on multiplayer campaigns. Those kids are way better than me, so much better than I can't get fun This is failed design. I eventually gave up on Call of Duty because while the control and bite-sized (multiplayer) games were great, there were such fundamental flaws in skill matching and team-work that it was un-enjoyable once the novelty was gone. I compare this to Overwatch and hope games will continue in this direction. Matchmaking is much more balanced and team-work is far more important. It still has a long way to go, especially in rooting out toxic players and making it easier to spontaneously group with players you like -- but its an improvement and hopefully a trend that will continue.
josephkern 10y ago
The question becomes what did MGS:V get correct? Even in an unfinished state I have been judging every game I've played since by comparison. I think it breaks down into a few categories; 1. Excellent controls. Probably the tightest and least obtrusive controls I've used in a long time. 2. Great characters. While the story itself isn't that great (because it's unfinished), the characters really drive the plot. 3. Amazing ambiance. I really felt that I was in Afghanistan and there were Russians I was trying to avoid. I eavesdrop on their conversations, hearing them yelling orders to each other, and even see them adapting to my tactics between missions. What makes this game a great single player campaign is ... Weight. Everything has consequences because you care about the characters. Most AAA games don't have characters anyone remembers or cares about.

scient 10y ago

Multiplayer games sadly are much more time consuming, and the older you get, the harder it is to find a regular schedule and buddies to play with. Been there, done that. I even play WoW these days mostly solo - I love the game, but can't facilitate raiding into my schedule.

maccard 10y ago
Thankfully most multiplayer games are coming with quick play/quick match. I can load the game, and in 2 clicks be matched with people who are roughly the same skill level as me. It's not perfect, but it's definitely more accessible than say raiding in WoW, or spending an hour playing a ranked game of League of Legends.
baldfat 10y ago
> Multiplayer games sadly are much more time consuming, and the older you get, the harder it is to find a regular schedule and buddies to play with Battlerite = 5 minute games Paladin = 12 minutes at most The whole market is moving to shorter games for exactly the same reason.