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So do identical twins count for one person?

jacquesm 16y ago
And so do clones, from a genetic point of view. So if you and your identical twin brother or sister are both going to apply to 23andme for an analysis you should get back the same results, and if your identical twin brother or sister commits a murder and hightails it to zanzibar you are in a lot of trouble if their dna is found at the crimescene and you happened to be in the neighbourhood. The number of identical twins is low enough that for the larger part of this discussion you can leave them out of the equation, they're the exception that confirms the rule, the differences in DNA are very subtle, and afaik will not be readily detected in a normal analysis.
thirdusername 16y ago
Identical twins don't have the same DNA. Random link of Google: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/11/health/11real.html http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/11/health/11real.html
- araneae 16y ago
  True, but not every cell in your body has the same DNA either. Mutations happen with every cell replication.
  - borism 16y ago
    not with every cell replication. that would certainly be pathological!
- jacquesm 16y ago
  I think you misread the point GP is making he is suggesting that because identical twins have the same DNA (more so than other people says the article linked) according to my logic they must be the same person, whereas it is obvious they are not. Of course they are not, but for 99.6% of humanity the rule that your DNA is (very) unique holds true, and for identical twins even if their DNA is even more similar it is not 100% the same. Clones (which do not exist (yet, or at least, human clones)) are the other exception.
  - infinite8s 16y ago
    Clones won't have identical DNA for the same reason that twins don't.
    - jacquesm 16y ago
      You mean because of copy errors ?
      - mbreese 16y ago
        I think they are referring to epigenetic changes (silencing/methylation). At the genetic level, they should have identical DNA if they arose firm the same egg/sperm combo.
- crocowhile 16y ago
  Those are epigenetics ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epigenetics http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epigenetics ) differeces. DNA sequence is identical in identical twins.

And so do clones, from a genetic point of view. So if you and your identical twin brother or sister are both going to apply to 23andme for an analysis you should get back the same results, and if your identical twin brother or sister commits a murder and hightails it to zanzibar you are in a lot of trouble if their dna is found at the crimescene and you happened to be in the neighbourhood. The number of identical twins is low enough that for the larger part of this discussion you can leave them out of the equation, they're the exception that confirms the rule, the differences in DNA are very subtle, and afaik will not be readily detected in a normal analysis.

thirdusername 16y ago

Identical twins don't have the same DNA. Random link of Google: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/11/health/11real.html http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/11/health/11real.html

araneae 16y ago
True, but not every cell in your body has the same DNA either. Mutations happen with every cell replication.
- borism 16y ago
  not with every cell replication. that would certainly be pathological!
jacquesm 16y ago
I think you misread the point GP is making he is suggesting that because identical twins have the same DNA (more so than other people says the article linked) according to my logic they must be the same person, whereas it is obvious they are not. Of course they are not, but for 99.6% of humanity the rule that your DNA is (very) unique holds true, and for identical twins even if their DNA is even more similar it is not 100% the same. Clones (which do not exist (yet, or at least, human clones)) are the other exception.
- infinite8s 16y ago
  Clones won't have identical DNA for the same reason that twins don't.
  - jacquesm 16y ago
    You mean because of copy errors ?
    - mbreese 16y ago
      I think they are referring to epigenetic changes (silencing/methylation). At the genetic level, they should have identical DNA if they arose firm the same egg/sperm combo.
crocowhile 16y ago
Those are epigenetics ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epigenetics http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epigenetics ) differeces. DNA sequence is identical in identical twins.