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Not really, the 2 things are not alike and I don't think QT designer exports to PDF, web and png (one of which is what the project manager needs, not a project

Not really, the 2 things are not alike and I don't think QT designer exports to PDF, web and png (one of which is what the project manager needs, not a project file that runs in an IDE). Not bashing QT, but QT designer is not a wireframing/mockup tool.

ensiferum 10y ago
Or you could build it into a executable and send that to the exec. I'd imagine that's better than a pdf/png picture, no?
- kagamine 10y ago
  Project managers want to put things in Word documents, they don't want executables, they don't want a demo. The point of wireframing is that the client doesn't look at it and go "this detail is wrong!" Wireframes and mockups should only communicate pre-prototype ideas, work-in-progress ideas and workflows. I think you might not understand what a tool like this is for if you think QT creator is better than every sketching tool on the market. Not a personal attack, but we seem to be talking in circles already.
  - ensiferum 10y ago
    Entirely possible, I'm not an UX/UI expert and not familiar with that particular tool. Maybe it's more about crafting/prototyping the UX instead of the UI?
    - vidarh 10y ago
      Pretty much that - as someone else expressed in a joke: You don't want to send the message that it's about evaluating functionality and that you're lamost done. You want to send the message that this is a sketch to use as a basis for discussing flows. This is one of the reasons why find people taking pains in some of these type of tools to not make it look like the real deal, because the closer it looks to the real deal, the more some people get hung up on irrelevant details.
  - bruce_one 10y ago
    I wouldn't write off project managers' appreciation for interactive prototypes... Although I would agree that they often (but, ime, not always) appreciate an export (eg pdf) that can be signed off and stored. We've had some project managers who were almost the most enthusiastic team member about interactive prototypes because they were the most effective (and understandable) thing to demonstrate/give to customers. (To your general point though, I entirely agree, I wouldn't use QT Designer for this role -- and I'm also quite a fan of pencil, because it feels intentionally plain/bland.)
    - kagamine 10y ago
      I think we agree, but prototypes and demos are not the same thing. A wireframe can be a prototype, with buttons linking from one page to another to demonstrate workflow, a prototype would be built to a near-finished specification and close to an alpha/beta. I feel like I'm being a pedantic a-hole in this thread, but the terminology of UX/IxD and the process seems like one of the more misunderstood aspects of building software and as a lot of developers (in my experience) want to either dismiss the process as unnecessary (they don't need to be told what to do) or they want to take on the process themselves (experienced coder, of course I can analyse and plan a user interface). I'll stop now before I start ranting.
  - johndubchak 10y ago
    According to history, an executable is the perfect thing for a Word document. ;-)
- qznc 10y ago
  "Oh, looks like you are nearly finished with it. The button does nothing if I click on it. I assume you have this finished by next week instead of next month. Good job. I already notified Sales and Marketing that we finish early. Will adapt our timing estimations now that have a fast coder like you on the team. -cheers your exec"
  - murukesh_s 10y ago
    ha ha ha
  - MyNameIsFred 10y ago
    Sounds like a joke, yet it's spot-on.
murukesh_s 10y ago
You can take a screenshot. It is an interesting idea provided it's as simple as mockup tools.
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ensiferum 10y ago

Or you could build it into a executable and send that to the exec. I'd imagine that's better than a pdf/png picture, no?

kagamine 10y ago
Project managers want to put things in Word documents, they don't want executables, they don't want a demo. The point of wireframing is that the client doesn't look at it and go "this detail is wrong!" Wireframes and mockups should only communicate pre-prototype ideas, work-in-progress ideas and workflows. I think you might not understand what a tool like this is for if you think QT creator is better than every sketching tool on the market. Not a personal attack, but we seem to be talking in circles already.
- ensiferum 10y ago
  Entirely possible, I'm not an UX/UI expert and not familiar with that particular tool. Maybe it's more about crafting/prototyping the UX instead of the UI?
  - vidarh 10y ago
    Pretty much that - as someone else expressed in a joke: You don't want to send the message that it's about evaluating functionality and that you're lamost done. You want to send the message that this is a sketch to use as a basis for discussing flows. This is one of the reasons why find people taking pains in some of these type of tools to not make it look like the real deal, because the closer it looks to the real deal, the more some people get hung up on irrelevant details.
- bruce_one 10y ago
  I wouldn't write off project managers' appreciation for interactive prototypes... Although I would agree that they often (but, ime, not always) appreciate an export (eg pdf) that can be signed off and stored. We've had some project managers who were almost the most enthusiastic team member about interactive prototypes because they were the most effective (and understandable) thing to demonstrate/give to customers. (To your general point though, I entirely agree, I wouldn't use QT Designer for this role -- and I'm also quite a fan of pencil, because it feels intentionally plain/bland.)
  - kagamine 10y ago
    I think we agree, but prototypes and demos are not the same thing. A wireframe can be a prototype, with buttons linking from one page to another to demonstrate workflow, a prototype would be built to a near-finished specification and close to an alpha/beta. I feel like I'm being a pedantic a-hole in this thread, but the terminology of UX/IxD and the process seems like one of the more misunderstood aspects of building software and as a lot of developers (in my experience) want to either dismiss the process as unnecessary (they don't need to be told what to do) or they want to take on the process themselves (experienced coder, of course I can analyse and plan a user interface). I'll stop now before I start ranting.
- johndubchak 10y ago
  According to history, an executable is the perfect thing for a Word document. ;-)
qznc 10y ago
"Oh, looks like you are nearly finished with it. The button does nothing if I click on it. I assume you have this finished by next week instead of next month. Good job. I already notified Sales and Marketing that we finish early. Will adapt our timing estimations now that have a fast coder like you on the team. -cheers your exec"
- murukesh_s 10y ago
  ha ha ha
- MyNameIsFred 10y ago
  Sounds like a joke, yet it's spot-on.

murukesh_s 10y ago

You can take a screenshot. It is an interesting idea provided it's as simple as mockup tools.

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