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vtail has already done a good job of proving most of your statements as false, but I would like to drive the point further: "If any open source implementation

by blub 17y ago

vtail has already done a good job of proving most of your statements as false, but I would like to drive the point further: "If any open source implementation of anything like this happened, I can assure you the comitters and developers would be appalled and embarrassed (in public), and significant lessons would be learned all within users view." There is no merit to this argument as the open source development model hasn't proved itself capable of delivering a competitive anti-virus solution. The most well known open source anti-virus software has consistently been ranked as poorly performing.

bobdole2695 17y ago
Most open source developers work on platforms that don't suffer from the same level of malware abuse. There isn't pain to make someone care enough to write one. Besides, AV is addressing the symptoms and not the actual problem: The MS operating system is completely broken from a security model. It won't improve until it's scrapped and redesigned. There is no patch for all those decades of broken and boneheaded.
- bad_user 17y ago
  > AV is addressing the symptoms and not the actual problem This is where you've lost me. Show me a piece of invincible software. Even stuff like Java with its top-notch security model and with its managed code has been vulnerable to various zero-day exploits. Even virtualization environments. I have a Windows workstation that's been running for 2 years, with no resident AV running and with the standard firewall. I do have a good AV, but I'm doing a scan every 3 months or so. Never caught anything, mostly because I'm a technical user that knows how to stay out of trouble. Give me a normal end-user using any of those non-MS platforms you mentioned and I'll show you how I can break his computer. Quite simple really ... "This game needs administrative rights to install. Please enter your password:" Not to mention that the desktop managers running on Linux have serious security flaws that haven't been fixed just because the platform itself is obscure enough for crackers not to bother with it.

by blub 17y ago

bobdole2695 17y ago

Most open source developers work on platforms that don't suffer from the same level of malware abuse. There isn't pain to make someone care enough to write one. Besides, AV is addressing the symptoms and not the actual problem: The MS operating system is completely broken from a security model. It won't improve until it's scrapped and redesigned. There is no patch for all those decades of broken and boneheaded.

bad_user 17y ago
> AV is addressing the symptoms and not the actual problem This is where you've lost me. Show me a piece of invincible software. Even stuff like Java with its top-notch security model and with its managed code has been vulnerable to various zero-day exploits. Even virtualization environments. I have a Windows workstation that's been running for 2 years, with no resident AV running and with the standard firewall. I do have a good AV, but I'm doing a scan every 3 months or so. Never caught anything, mostly because I'm a technical user that knows how to stay out of trouble. Give me a normal end-user using any of those non-MS platforms you mentioned and I'll show you how I can break his computer. Quite simple really ... "This game needs administrative rights to install. Please enter your password:" Not to mention that the desktop managers running on Linux have serious security flaws that haven't been fixed just because the platform itself is obscure enough for crackers not to bother with it.