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>Remember the server sending out emails Interesting 'fact' to cite. How many emails did that server send again?

norikki 10y ago
The fact that two reasonable people like you can argue about it proves his point that Facebook shouldn't censor people's posts because they don't fit the mainstream narrative.
- whybroke 10y ago
  Do reasonable people argue that Clinton is a satanist who enjoys spirit cooking? But they should not censor posts under any circumstances, even that one. The problem is the way stories trend and the order in which the feed is presented. The current algorithms and 'like' counting maximize shocking statements that confirm world views exactly because that will maximize user retention. Accuracy is completely deprecated. Facebook knows this and is well aware that nudity (let alone porn) would overwhelm their site because it would be overwhelmingly favored by their systemic selection process. So rather than fix the process they censor that. This leaves things like accusing people of satanism or other false inciting statements to bubble up instead. Unfortunately, facebook has no fiscal incentive to fix this. And it may not be a coincidence that UKIP, Trump, AfD, Le Pen expanded greatly after the emergence of facebook.
makomk 10y ago
We obviously don't know, beyond the fact that it was communicating with a far wider group than just some Russian bank. (I wouldn't be surprised if no-one in the Trump Organisation knew either since it was outsourced.) That was the other problem with the original story; how could someone have access to a complete list of all the DNS lookups for that server? They'd have to have access to Cendyn's DNS server's logs. The reason I count the story as false is that all the available evidence points to it being an ordinary mass mailing system: the horde of similar domains owned by Cendyn for the other hotels they do business with, the e-mails from it that have been found, the long trail of evidence showing Cendyn have been in this business for two decades and have had the Trump Organisation as a customer for 9 years, the existence of numerous DNS lookups not in the original logs offered by those pushing the story... When the only evidence is misinterpreting ordinary, boring activities, then it's a conspiracy theory. This is why it hung around for months without any of the publications that were offered it taking the story.

The fact that two reasonable people like you can argue about it proves his point that Facebook shouldn't censor people's posts because they don't fit the mainstream narrative.

whybroke 10y ago
Do reasonable people argue that Clinton is a satanist who enjoys spirit cooking? But they should not censor posts under any circumstances, even that one. The problem is the way stories trend and the order in which the feed is presented. The current algorithms and 'like' counting maximize shocking statements that confirm world views exactly because that will maximize user retention. Accuracy is completely deprecated. Facebook knows this and is well aware that nudity (let alone porn) would overwhelm their site because it would be overwhelmingly favored by their systemic selection process. So rather than fix the process they censor that. This leaves things like accusing people of satanism or other false inciting statements to bubble up instead. Unfortunately, facebook has no fiscal incentive to fix this. And it may not be a coincidence that UKIP, Trump, AfD, Le Pen expanded greatly after the emergence of facebook.

makomk 10y ago

We obviously don't know, beyond the fact that it was communicating with a far wider group than just some Russian bank. (I wouldn't be surprised if no-one in the Trump Organisation knew either since it was outsourced.) That was the other problem with the original story; how could someone have access to a complete list of all the DNS lookups for that server? They'd have to have access to Cendyn's DNS server's logs. The reason I count the story as false is that all the available evidence points to it being an ordinary mass mailing system: the horde of similar domains owned by Cendyn for the other hotels they do business with, the e-mails from it that have been found, the long trail of evidence showing Cendyn have been in this business for two decades and have had the Trump Organisation as a customer for 9 years, the existence of numerous DNS lookups not in the original logs offered by those pushing the story... When the only evidence is misinterpreting ordinary, boring activities, then it's a conspiracy theory. This is why it hung around for months without any of the publications that were offered it taking the story.