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First 64-bit Orange Pi slips in under $20
- makomk 10y agoThat figures. The previous version of this is almost supported in the upstream Linux kernel, so I guess we're probably due for a new model.
- megous 10y agoOrange Pi PC works perfectly well with mainstream kernel + a few patches. Ethernet, HDMI, frequency scaling. Audio is also in the works.
- ars 10y agoIs this related to the well known Raspberry Pi?
- majewsky 10y agoI wouldn't think so. It looks like they're just using a similar name to signal that it's a similar thing.
- eberkund 10y agoIt is a similar product (an ARM based single-board computer) but other than that there is no relation.
- thinkmassive 10y agoIt also features a "40-pin RPi interface" so it seems fair to consider it a partial clone, or at least a knockoff.
- mastazi 10y agoIf the GPIO pins were compatible, then you could probably use libraries and HW accessories from the RPi ecosystem. Unfortunately, the article doesn't specify whether that's the case.
- matt_wulfeck 10y agoWhat all of these mini computers need is modular, high speed persistent storage. They all use SD, which is sooooo slow as to be unusable. I've seen a few boards which take eMMc but they are few and far between, and require special (proprietary to the board) hardware to be installed on the eMMC chip. Even still I'm not sure the bus would even provide much IO bandwidth. Storage is an area that needs a lot more improvement for mini computers.
- brians 10y agoI suspect we'll see cheap storage before modular storage. If there's 64 GB onboard and nearly as fast as RAM, it's easier to live with the rest of the world being on the other side of a USB interface.
- matt_wulfeck 10y agoI would kill for that kind of onboard storage. Even 4 or 8 GB would be great with an SD expansion slot for additional storage.
- BrandoElFollito 10y agoThe C.H.I.P has this. I am waiting for the two I ordered to ship (3 months late).
- thinkmassive 10y agoA very valid point, especially considering how quickly an SD card can be corrupted by write activity
- cheiVia0 10y agoNVMe is probably coming at some point.
- woodruffw 10y agoWhat's going on with the IC placement[1]? I'm not at all familiar with board layout/design, but it looks like they've wasted a fair amount of space by putting the CPU and (what I'm guessing are) memory chips at those odd angles. [1]: http://files.linuxgizmos.com/shenzhen_orangepipctwo2.jpg http://files.linuxgizmos.com/shenzhen_orangepipctwo2.jpg
- imglorp 10y agoI wondered that too. But turning them might make shorter data lines, which incur less capacitance and less crosstalk. They also might have avoided a bunch of 90-degree elbows.
- phs2501 10y agoIt almost certainly saves space as the odd placement would be to optimize signal routing. You need a fair amount of space around a BGA to fan out all the signals, and at $20 they certainly have tried to do this with the minimum number of PCB layers possible which makes the routing problem much harder. That being said it does look really strange.
- dietr1ch 10y agoUsing 90 or 45 angles is a restriction on your design, not a feature. Also, it would be naive to assume that they dropped those constraints just for the lulz.
- revelation 10y agoIt looks wrong, particularly since for DDR3 signaling there are typically very strict design recommendations for the placement of the memory chips in relation to the CPU. It also seems to work, so maybe the recommendations are just that.
- yuhong 10y agoI wonder how much space is in between the DRAM chips and the capacitors.
- Damogran6 10y agoSure wish they'd roll out something with two (possibly three) RJ-45's. Gig ethernet is nice here, but if they had multiple ethernet, they'd crack the SOHO firewall market WIDE open.
- technofiend 10y agoYou may want to examine uquiti's low end edgerouter products. They run their own version of debian with some blob drivers for packet offloading, but you can add your own packages or even load a different distribution if you desire. Heck OpenBSD runs on it so presumably other BSDs do as well. .
- Damogran6 10y agoI'm not seeing it on their website...and there are several multi-interface open source routers out there...but when I checked last, they were in the $200+ range...an rPI would have more than enough HP to handle the job...it just doesn't have a good multi-interface solution...it'd cost...what, $40?
- mrbill 10y agoEdgerouter X runs around $50, and the Edgerouter Lite is under $100 ($88 currently on Amazon). Both run Ubiquiti's fork of Vyatta/VyOS on top of Debian, on MIPS-based CPUs. https://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-EdgeRouter-Advanced-Gigabit-Ethernet/dp/B00YFJT29C https://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-EdgeRouter-Advanced-Gigabit-... https://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-Edgerouter-ERLITE-3-Desktop-Router/dp/B00HXT8EKE https://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-Edgerouter-ERLITE-3-Desktop-...
- subway 10y agohttps://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-EdgeRouter-Advanced-Gigabit-Ethernet/dp/B00YFJT29C https://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-EdgeRouter-Advanced-Gigabit-...
- Ecio78 10y agoSomething like this? https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/874883570/marvell-espressobin-board https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/874883570/marvell-espre... but then we need to see how fast they are on the network side
- ryao 10y agoI am visiting China. It turns out to be cheaper to buy this from aliexpress than it is to buy it in China. :/
- Scaevolus 10y agoDoes this actually have a 64-bit kernel to run on it? The Raspberry Pi 3 has a 64-bit CPU, but no way to actually use it as such! There are some efforts to produce a 64-bit kernel for it, but it's not yet generally usable.
- hinkley 10y agoDo none of the devices in this class support Ethernet over HDMI (HEC)?