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So, in my comment I never once said supporters of epistocracy are racist (or that every supporter of epistocracy is racist.) [0] I said that epistocracy itself
by owenversteeg 10y ago
So, in my comment I never once said supporters of epistocracy are racist (or that every supporter of epistocracy is racist.) [0] I said that epistocracy itself was racist in the most literal sense: discriminating by race.
I said that it disenfranchised racial minorities for decades, which is something that is factually true; some Southern states did not have laws preventing black people from voting because epistocracy was the system by which black people were stripped of their right to vote, i.e. literally disenfranchising them by the dictionary definition - the first definition, according to both the Merriam-Webster and Oxford English dictionaries.
At this point let's ignore the race issues and just assume two things to be true: 1) epistocracy is the most effective form of government and 2) epistocracy deprives every citizen (who is ignorant of X, whatever X may be) of their right to vote.
Personally, even given these assumptions I would not be in favor of epistocracy. In my opinion, a dictatorship would be the most effective form of government. But do I want a dictatorship running the country? No.
Because I, personally, hold these truths to be self-evident: that all men are created equal, that they are endowed with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. And regardless of the enticing Siren call of an effective system of governance - which sounds all the more sweet with the modern political world of Trump, Clinton, Duterte, Geun-hye to name a few - I would not deprive any citizen of this planet of their rights, however dire the consequences.
[0] I do think that many or indeed most modern supporters of epistocracy are racist and ignorant, but that's not relevant; I don't dislike something solely on the basis that its supporters are racist or ignorant. I assume both Donald Trump and I like pictures of cute kittens, for example. As an aside, it's very obvious that almost every supporter of epistocracy was racist when it was in place in America.
- yummyfajitas 10y agoBecause I, personally, hold these truths to be self-evident: that all men are created equal, that they are endowed with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. If a dictator (or epistocracy) protects these unalienable rights better than 50%+1 of the population does, your premises argue in favor of that dictator/epistocracy/non-democratic government. Voting rights are neither life, liberty nor pursuit of happiness. Voting rights are something else: the right to have a nonzero probability of directly influencing the use of (legal) violence against others. It's easily possible for a person to have your three inalienable rights without this.