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> "A police officer or two killed" ... > "Humans who are vastly over-prepared for the threat they face" > Again, these are people who want to go home to their

> "A police officer or two killed" ... > "Humans who are vastly over-prepared for the threat they face" > Again, these are people who want to go home to their families. I said “or two” for a reason. Vastly more civilians are killed by police than vice-versa. > Valid point. But the riot gear itself was a reaction to throwing stones or molotov cocktails. Reaction or not, it's not appropriate in many situations where it's deployed. > How can a protester throwing stones or shooting people engage with the institutions they are trying to change? They are a tiny minority of protestors.

ahartman00 10y ago
"Vastly more civilians are killed by police than vice-versa" Sure, but their job is literally go find the most dangerous people in the country, and make them give up their freedom. Imagine yourself outside the headquarters of a gang of meth cooks, known to be armed and high. Unfortunately, yeah, people get shot. Lets not pretend like these are kind, innocent people. I know sometimes their relatives will say that on tv[1]. Imagine what its like to deal with hardcore criminals on a regular basis. "it's not appropriate in many situations where it's deployed" I agree. The problem is, how do you know in advance? Peaceful protests can turn violent in the blink of an eye. When they do need the gear, they needed it 5 minutes ago. I would love to hear a solution that doesnt involve the police running back to their cars, right at the moment that things get out of hand. "They are a tiny minority of protestors" Agreed. But again, how to know which ones? Now you can see why they want to monitor social media(not taking a position here). If 99 people are saying, "grab a coat and join us for a peaceful protest", and 1 is saying "grab rocks and head the park", well, now maybe we know who to watch. 1. http://wncn.com/2016/11/03/parents-of-pizza-hut-robbery-suspect-question-why-employee-fatally-shot-their-son-in-the-head/ http://wncn.com/2016/11/03/parents-of-pizza-hut-robbery-susp...

ahartman00 10y ago

"Vastly more civilians are killed by police than vice-versa" Sure, but their job is literally go find the most dangerous people in the country, and make them give up their freedom. Imagine yourself outside the headquarters of a gang of meth cooks, known to be armed and high. Unfortunately, yeah, people get shot. Lets not pretend like these are kind, innocent people. I know sometimes their relatives will say that on tv[1]. Imagine what its like to deal with hardcore criminals on a regular basis. "it's not appropriate in many situations where it's deployed" I agree. The problem is, how do you know in advance? Peaceful protests can turn violent in the blink of an eye. When they do need the gear, they needed it 5 minutes ago. I would love to hear a solution that doesnt involve the police running back to their cars, right at the moment that things get out of hand. "They are a tiny minority of protestors" Agreed. But again, how to know which ones? Now you can see why they want to monitor social media(not taking a position here). If 99 people are saying, "grab a coat and join us for a peaceful protest", and 1 is saying "grab rocks and head the park", well, now maybe we know who to watch. 1. http://wncn.com/2016/11/03/parents-of-pizza-hut-robbery-suspect-question-why-employee-fatally-shot-their-son-in-the-head/ http://wncn.com/2016/11/03/parents-of-pizza-hut-robbery-susp...