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I think we systemd despisers are barking at the wrong tree. We already know Poettering's social and technical abilities (or lack thereof). And we must recognize
by arde 10y ago
I think we systemd despisers are barking at the wrong tree. We already know Poettering's social and technical abilities (or lack thereof). And we must recognize his right to write whatever crap he wants. Focusing on systemd or on Poettering is useless to us. The only people who should get our vitriol are the ones that chose (and keep choosing) to use systemd in such main distributions as Red Hat and Ubuntu despite its known defective design and lack of safety measures. I want those people's names being known and remembered by the community, and I want them to stand up to their harmful decisions and I want them to change those decisions or step aside otherwise. It is quite late for that but this can be changed and should be changed right now, and such a change has already done once with Upstart (which was bad enough to run away from too, BTW).
- MertsA 10y agoNobody is forcing you to use Debian, if you really think you know better than Debian and Redhat then move to Slackware or Devuan.
- srslack 10y ago>or lack thereof Coming from a group of people suggesting languages to write PID1 in that are without the practical ability, and necessary in this context, to fork(). Or the suggestion to, at its core, make systemd a subreaper even though most certainly don't know that they're suggesting it, or what it entails.
- arde 10y agoThat's a strawman, a tu-quoque and an ad hominem. Try arguments instead of fallacies. If possible, arguments that don't ignore decades of knowledge accumulated by software engineering, such as the need for low coupling and high cohesion.