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Everything you listed as either incorrect or extremely insignificant. I don't have time to correct you right now but please, you're really reaching on quite a f

Everything you listed as either incorrect or extremely insignificant. I don't have time to correct you right now but please, you're really reaching on quite a few of those. Edit: maybe it would help you to level out your perspective by thinking about some reasons why almost every business on the planet runs Windows and not Mac.

no1youknowz 10y ago
* Touchpad / gesture support that is actually pleasant and precise to use * Multidesktop * PDF support baked into OS He's right with these. I now solely use the touchpad on my MBPr. I cannot see myself ever switching back to a mouse. Having been a mouse user for 16 years! The ability to do a 3 finger swipe and switch to another virtual desktop in a split second is awesome. Is this possible on Windows? I don't know. I was working on a Windows 10 machine yesterday and PDFs opened with Edge. Again, I don't know if it's right or not.
- protomyth 10y ago
  To be fair to Microsoft, Adobe threw a bit of a fit when Microsoft tried to add some basic PDF support that Apple already had. https://www.cnet.com/news/microsoft-adobe-squabble-over-pdf/ https://www.cnet.com/news/microsoft-adobe-squabble-over-pdf/
- douche 10y ago
  I'm pretty sure Edge has PDF rendering built into it. It keeps trying to smash the default file association I had for Foxit.
  - aq3cn 10y ago
    Latest Windows insider build have DrawboardPDF app preinstalled. So no more dependence on Edge anymore.
- erk__ 10y ago
  The abillity to have multiple desktops came with the anniversary update a couple of months ago.
oldmanjay 10y ago
Without getting too much into what side wins, "my opinion is correct but I can't be bothered to express it" is one of the least convincing arguments I've ever read.
- WayneBro 10y ago
  I expressed my opinion quite clearly, thank you very much. Here it is again: Everything that person stated was either incorrect or extremely insignificant because obviously none of those reasons have affected Windows very significant market share. EDIT: What I don't have time for anymore is refuting every person's laundry list of nit-picks.
  - oldmanjay 10y ago
    I didn't need a restatement, it is simple enough to understand. Your opinion is a lot of words to say "I think you're wrong" in the form of a bare assertion with nothing supporting it. Why would you expect anyone to care about reasons you could not be bothered to express?
Ensorceled 10y ago
Well, that was a convincing argument. Edit: Every business on the planet runs Office, and they used to all run Exchange, Outlook and SharePoint. They got Windows as a side effect.
- douche 10y ago
  They still do run all that stuff, they are just letting Microsoft administer it for them increasingly, rather than fiddle-frig around with on-premise deployments. Office 365 is exploding.
  - Ensorceled 10y ago
    Many corporations do, but Exchange and Sharepoint are no longer practically a "given" like they use to be.
    - WayneBro 10y ago
      So what you're saying is that no other OS has any programs that can compete with Exchange, Outlook, Office and Sharepoint. I agree. :) Maybe those other shitty operating systems makers should try harder if they want to replace Windows. It won't happen though because none of them care about their business customers as much as Microsoft does.
protomyth 10y ago
> maybe it would help you to level out your perspective by thinking about some reasons why almost every business on the planet runs Windows and not Mac. Every is a bit strong, but... Well, IBM wanted to use an OS called CP/M and was buying a lot of products from Microsoft. Something stupid happened and then IBM bought their OS from Microsoft. Microsoft was allowed to license it and Compaq figured out a work around for the BIOS issues. Thus DOS became the big thing because of IBM then all the other PC companies. Apple totally flubbed the Apple III, and Commodore didn't retain their leading market share. IBM then completely failed to follow-up with OS/2 (seems working with Microsoft to compete against Microsoft Windows is not a healthy move). DOS begat Windows which begat Windows NT, and the software was good enough. I can buy a PC from more than one company and they have a lot of non-technical, business support. Microsoft doing a bit of cheating probably helped. It actually helps sell support contracts to have some problematic areas in your software which generates an amazing ecosystem that businesses understand (paying someone to be responsible is understandable). A lot more people drive Kia than BMW, but I really wouldn't argue Kia is a better built car.

no1youknowz 10y ago

* Touchpad / gesture support that is actually pleasant and precise to use * Multidesktop * PDF support baked into OS He's right with these. I now solely use the touchpad on my MBPr. I cannot see myself ever switching back to a mouse. Having been a mouse user for 16 years! The ability to do a 3 finger swipe and switch to another virtual desktop in a split second is awesome. Is this possible on Windows? I don't know. I was working on a Windows 10 machine yesterday and PDFs opened with Edge. Again, I don't know if it's right or not.

protomyth 10y ago
To be fair to Microsoft, Adobe threw a bit of a fit when Microsoft tried to add some basic PDF support that Apple already had. https://www.cnet.com/news/microsoft-adobe-squabble-over-pdf/ https://www.cnet.com/news/microsoft-adobe-squabble-over-pdf/
douche 10y ago
I'm pretty sure Edge has PDF rendering built into it. It keeps trying to smash the default file association I had for Foxit.
- aq3cn 10y ago
  Latest Windows insider build have DrawboardPDF app preinstalled. So no more dependence on Edge anymore.
erk__ 10y ago
The abillity to have multiple desktops came with the anniversary update a couple of months ago.

oldmanjay 10y ago

Without getting too much into what side wins, "my opinion is correct but I can't be bothered to express it" is one of the least convincing arguments I've ever read.

WayneBro 10y ago
I expressed my opinion quite clearly, thank you very much. Here it is again: Everything that person stated was either incorrect or extremely insignificant because obviously none of those reasons have affected Windows very significant market share. EDIT: What I don't have time for anymore is refuting every person's laundry list of nit-picks.
- oldmanjay 10y ago
  I didn't need a restatement, it is simple enough to understand. Your opinion is a lot of words to say "I think you're wrong" in the form of a bare assertion with nothing supporting it. Why would you expect anyone to care about reasons you could not be bothered to express?

Ensorceled 10y ago

Well, that was a convincing argument. Edit: Every business on the planet runs Office, and they used to all run Exchange, Outlook and SharePoint. They got Windows as a side effect.

douche 10y ago
They still do run all that stuff, they are just letting Microsoft administer it for them increasingly, rather than fiddle-frig around with on-premise deployments. Office 365 is exploding.
- Ensorceled 10y ago
  Many corporations do, but Exchange and Sharepoint are no longer practically a "given" like they use to be.
  - WayneBro 10y ago
    So what you're saying is that no other OS has any programs that can compete with Exchange, Outlook, Office and Sharepoint. I agree. :) Maybe those other shitty operating systems makers should try harder if they want to replace Windows. It won't happen though because none of them care about their business customers as much as Microsoft does.

protomyth 10y ago

> maybe it would help you to level out your perspective by thinking about some reasons why almost every business on the planet runs Windows and not Mac. Every is a bit strong, but... Well, IBM wanted to use an OS called CP/M and was buying a lot of products from Microsoft. Something stupid happened and then IBM bought their OS from Microsoft. Microsoft was allowed to license it and Compaq figured out a work around for the BIOS issues. Thus DOS became the big thing because of IBM then all the other PC companies. Apple totally flubbed the Apple III, and Commodore didn't retain their leading market share. IBM then completely failed to follow-up with OS/2 (seems working with Microsoft to compete against Microsoft Windows is not a healthy move). DOS begat Windows which begat Windows NT, and the software was good enough. I can buy a PC from more than one company and they have a lot of non-technical, business support. Microsoft doing a bit of cheating probably helped. It actually helps sell support contracts to have some problematic areas in your software which generates an amazing ecosystem that businesses understand (paying someone to be responsible is understandable). A lot more people drive Kia than BMW, but I really wouldn't argue Kia is a better built car.