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Won't fix much unless the package maintainers have set up parallel trees of packages, or a whole bunch of "masking tape" so that packages don't care as long as
by digi_owl 10y ago
Won't fix much unless the package maintainers have set up parallel trees of packages, or a whole bunch of "masking tape" so that packages don't care as long as the "has a init" package comes up green.
As systemd has in large part been adopted over a manpower issue, expect the ability to opt out via pinning to vanish soon enough.
- dredmorbius 10y agoIn most cases, this exists. I'm profoundly disappointed in Debian's decision, but one consequence may be that the worse elements of systemd's design are in fact abstracted out. There are several shim frameworks which can provide systemd-like capabilities, where required, without the full stack being required. On alternate Debian kernels (BSD and Hurd are both targets), this is required due to systemd's own dependencies on the Linux kernel itself. To a large extent, systemd has taken the joy out of using Linux, and sunk my trust in both kernel and distro development.
- digi_owl 10y agoI could have sworn that Debian had retired those alternate kernel targets because of systemd, and that the variouys shims are struggling to keep up with systemd changes (logind being particularly problematic).
- dredmorbius 10y agoNope. BSD and, as an experimental project, HURD. https://www.debian.org/intro/about https://www.debian.org/intro/about