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Dongle dilemma provokes Apple price cut
- dasmoth 10y agoThe LG 4K and 5K monitors that were announced at the same time as the new MBPs have also had a substantial (temporary) price cut. I think it's the pricing on the machines themselves that really startled people, though.
- privong 10y agoFor reference, this article received a substantial number of comments yesterday: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12877381 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12877381
- mancerayder 10y agoI thought HN auto-redirects you to the main post if you try to post a duplicate? I wonder why the dups keep happening. It's not detecting them?
- lisper 10y agoTwo different URLs: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-37880723 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-37880723 http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-37880723 http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-37880723
- esturk 10y agoMaybe they can follow through and see how the URL resolves and compare the resulting URL as opposed to the posted URL. As it is, multiple URL shorteners can all direct to the same URL and all have different posts.
- boulos 10y agoMaybe the mods could also de-dupe some of these hostnames (like m.nytimes.com and nytimes.com). Though now thanks to AMP, it might make more sense to de-dupe on known prefixes rather than Host particularly. Sadly, for the BBC at least that won't work, since the URLs look like they do /amp instead of their usual sections: https://www.google.com/amp/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/36788782?client=safari https://www.google.com/amp/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/36788782?c...
- Mz 10y agoIt auto redirects if the URL is identical. I think they will call it a dupe if it is the same content, different URL, or essentially the same story, even if it is a different write up. /Not an HN mod and I do not play one on TV
- DanBC 10y agoI think HN used to have stronger dupe detection, but they realised that many good stories were not getting the discussion they deserved. So now the dupe filter is weaker. ((Obviously I'm not a mod, but I'll try to find a post from dang or sctb explaining this)) EDIT: Here's one: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10223645 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10223645 > We've adjusted the dupe detector to reject fewer URLs. If a story hasn't had significant attention in about the last year, reposts are ok. That's been the policy for a while, but we've brought the software closer to it. It will still reject reposts for a few hours, though, to avoid stampedes. Allowing reposts is a way of giving high-quality stories multiple chances at making the front page. Please do this tastefully and don't overdo it. I think the dupe detector only ever identified identical URLs. (And you might notice some sites add some random junk at the end of the url to evade dupe filters on various sites).
- stesch 10y agoEven with the same URL this doesn't work every time.
- daveguy 10y agoApple is becoming more and more of a fashion accessory. They do very well with this approach. When they dropped the audio jack in the iPhone 7 for a dongle mediated or wireless interface I thought they jumped the shark. It appears their sales are suffering because of it. Until 2012 or so I had a laptop with a serial port, because working with serial devices was unreliable with usb to serial dongles. Declaring that standard usb ports are legacy will only slow sales of laptops. Very few people want to keep up with a wad of dongles. Laptops should be convenient. It is relatively easy to plug into any presentation display with an hdmi cable and I am happy to have a VGA port on my circa 2012 laptop (ram and ssd upgraded). When people can't use their machine like everyone else, they don't think "Ohh I have such a modern laptop". They think "This is inconvenient and unproductive. I will think twice about buying this in the future."
- chrisseaton 10y ago> Declaring that standard usb ports are legacy The new MacBook Pros still have standard USB ports. In fact they have twice as many as before. USB C is still standard USB. I think people think Apple have made their own new incompatible port and that isn't true.
- gaius 10y agoI have probably stayed in a dozen or more hotels that had in each room a docking station for iPod hooked into the room's stereo... All of which are completely useless since Apple switched away from the old large flat connector. Why would those big buyers be interested in Apple-compatibility next time around?
- lips 10y agoNot only are these not dongles, most people have never seen a dongle.
- Godel_unicode 10y agoIt sounds like you're using a different definition of "dongle" than most people?
- honkhonkpants 10y agoDongle was originally a thing that you plugged into a computer that allowed it to execute expensive licensed software like PRO/Engineer or Softimage.
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- SyneRyder 10y agoHuh, you make a good point. I'd forgotten about the days of USB dongles that do nothing but act as challenge-response devices for audio software DRM. Which makes me wonder, will all those now-legacy iLok USB-A DRM dongles still work with the USB-C to USB-A cables? Or will the iLok DRM detect the cables as a man-in-the-middle cracking attempt?
- kbutler 10y agoNor does Youtube have any tubes. Words change, but technical jargon changes faster than most. dongle: "a small device that plugs into a computer and serves as an adapter or as a security measure to enable the use of certain software" http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/dongle http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/dongle
- sambe 10y agoThey claim you cannot connect a new iPhone to a new MacBook Pro without a dongle. Even ignoring the fact that you probably don't have to, you can do this wirelessly. Is it really necessary to buy a dongle for your iPhone for anything realistic?
- Trombone12 10y agoI didn't know you could charge over wireless! That's really cool!
- sambe 10y agoWow, downvotes for a reasonable question. I never need to connect my phone to my laptop. I've also spotted a pattern of the BBC saying dubiously truthful things recently in tech articles. Example from main evening news last week: "foreigners get better mobile reception in the U.K. than we do". So, no, they obviously don't. But they roam between providers (at cost), as has been the case for decades. The phone comes with a charger.
- gaius 10y agoIt's not recent - their tech journalism has always been pretty poor. The BBC is a branch of the civil service culturally; anyone who understands science or tech but can't conjugate latin verbs stands no chance.
- KnightEternal 10y agoYou can't, but you can have iTunes backup your iPhone wirelessly.
- Hydraulix989 10y agoWhy and how is it a "dilemma"? If anything, it should be called a "bad product decision" -- since they get rid of all of those ports.