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I don't mean to be offesive here, but did look at how their laptops look like?

cyberferret 10y ago
This is exactly my point though... People are being put off the new MacBook range, but if another hardware manufacturer can pull off a shiny, good looking notebook, and it has Elementary running on it - Voila! Instant Apple-like coolness for a fraction of the price.
- azinman2 10y ago
  Signaling theory dictates that cheaper price can be a primary source of detraction, not aspiration. Cheaper never yields "coolness."
  - cyberferret 10y ago
    The thriving Asian replica knock off market for high end goods would counter this argument though, I would think? I think the important distinction here is that people without the means to afford a real Apple device would be satisfied with a 'nearly Apple' facsimile.
    - azinman2 10y ago
      It only further demonstrates it. Knock offs are a way for people to signal more wealth than they actually have -- they'd rather have something that looked like the real thing than something cheap which doesn't try to be anything it's not. Cubic zirconium had not made the diamond market go away, for example. Probably, if anything, it's made it bigger by giving diamonds a bigger cultural cache.
- tbarbugli 10y ago
  So you are saying if I show up in a coffee place with a bulky black laptop running a cheap imitation of OSX people will think this is cool? Elementary will never be cool, in fact you will be "bullied" by both cool kids with expensive (good looking!) OSX MBP and geeks running some obscure Linux distro on a Thinkpad.
  - jon-wood 10y ago
    > Elementary will never be cool, in fact you will be "bullied" by both cool kids with expensive (good looking!) OSX MBP and geeks running some obscure Linux distro on a Thinkpad. Are you in some sort of bizarre TV show cross between Silicon Valley and Mean Girls? Out here in the real world no one cares what computer you're using so long as you can get the job done.
  - cyberferret 10y ago
    I think you need to re-evaluate the sort of people you hang around with. Purely anecdotal on my part, but the last time I was out at a co-working space with my ThinkPad running Elementary in a full screen virtual session, at least 3 other tech guys stopped by my desk and asked "Whoa! What the hell OS is that?!?". Previous 100 times at the same place with my MacBook, I had exactly zero people exclaim about it...

This is exactly my point though... People are being put off the new MacBook range, but if another hardware manufacturer can pull off a shiny, good looking notebook, and it has Elementary running on it - Voila! Instant Apple-like coolness for a fraction of the price.

azinman2 10y ago
Signaling theory dictates that cheaper price can be a primary source of detraction, not aspiration. Cheaper never yields "coolness."
- cyberferret 10y ago
  The thriving Asian replica knock off market for high end goods would counter this argument though, I would think? I think the important distinction here is that people without the means to afford a real Apple device would be satisfied with a 'nearly Apple' facsimile.
  - azinman2 10y ago
    It only further demonstrates it. Knock offs are a way for people to signal more wealth than they actually have -- they'd rather have something that looked like the real thing than something cheap which doesn't try to be anything it's not. Cubic zirconium had not made the diamond market go away, for example. Probably, if anything, it's made it bigger by giving diamonds a bigger cultural cache.
tbarbugli 10y ago
So you are saying if I show up in a coffee place with a bulky black laptop running a cheap imitation of OSX people will think this is cool? Elementary will never be cool, in fact you will be "bullied" by both cool kids with expensive (good looking!) OSX MBP and geeks running some obscure Linux distro on a Thinkpad.
- jon-wood 10y ago
  > Elementary will never be cool, in fact you will be "bullied" by both cool kids with expensive (good looking!) OSX MBP and geeks running some obscure Linux distro on a Thinkpad. Are you in some sort of bizarre TV show cross between Silicon Valley and Mean Girls? Out here in the real world no one cares what computer you're using so long as you can get the job done.
- cyberferret 10y ago
  I think you need to re-evaluate the sort of people you hang around with. Purely anecdotal on my part, but the last time I was out at a co-working space with my ThinkPad running Elementary in a full screen virtual session, at least 3 other tech guys stopped by my desk and asked "Whoa! What the hell OS is that?!?". Previous 100 times at the same place with my MacBook, I had exactly zero people exclaim about it...