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>If even a single one does, that's decades of scot-free voter impersonation that can be done. It also assumes fraudulent voter registration hasn't already happe
by travmatt 10y ago
>If even a single one does, that's decades of scot-free voter impersonation that can be done. It also assumes fraudulent voter registration hasn't already happened (!!) which is also unverifiable (particularly since states legally can't require voters to verify their citizenship).
Nothing you said here is true, why are you saying this? Parties can, and regularly do, challenge voter roles, make them appear in person and prove their citizenship and identity[0]. It's also untrue that states can't legally require voters to verify their citizenship, why are you trying to pass this misinformation as true?[1] Lastly, elections are left to the states and local governments - the federal government does not run them.
Again, past your deceit, there are legal ways to prevent, find, and challenge voter registration fraud. The way to prevent voter registration fraud is to prevent voter registration fraud, not try to disenfranchise minorities.
As to your claims these tactics aren't racist, I'm a believer in calling a spade a spade - so we'll have to disagree. But the facts are:
1. Republican party officials __have been found in court to research ways in which blacks vote, then crafting legislation to 'surgically' disenfrachise them__.
2. Republicans have been suing in order to rollback protections of the Voting Rights Act - you know, the act passed by congress by its champion Martin Luther King Jr.
3. Republican voter id laws have been getting struck down in court because they 'have a disproportionate and disparate impact on minority communities'.
4. Republican voter id laws have been empirically shown to disproportionately lower turnout among minority voters in studies[2]
5. Republican governors have been closing dmv's and cutting dmv hours in minority-majority areas, and instructing employees not to advertise or discuss the free ID's that courts have decreed must be available to voters.
I understand that it's fashionable to cry 'race card' every time evidence of racism is presented, but personally I'm of the belief that if something walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and swims like a duck - we should call it a duck.
If it makes you feel better, I don't believe that these Republicans are racist, I just think they implement racist laws because blacks largely vote democratic and they'd rather suppress them than actually do the hard work of outreach. But alas, it's largely useless to try and separate their intent from their actions - the end result is that they are seeking to disenfranchise voters based on their skin colors.
[0]https://www.thenation.com/article/north-carolina-republicans-tried-to-disenfranchise-a-100-year-old-african-american-woman/ https://www.thenation.com/article/north-carolina-republicans...
[1]Specifically, the Times reports that the Hancock County Board of Elections and Registration has been “systematically questioning the registrations of more than 180” black residents in Sparta, Georgia “by dispatching deputies with summonses commanding them to appear in person to prove their residence or lose their voting rights.”http://www.rawstory.com/2016/08/a-georgia-town-is-sending-police-to-black-residents-homes-to-challenge-their-voting-rights/ http://www.rawstory.com/2016/08/a-georgia-town-is-sending-po...
[2]https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/02/04/new-evidence-that-voter-id-laws-skew-democracy-in-favor-of-white-republicans/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/02/04/new-e...
- moduspol 10y ago> Nothing you said here is true, why are you saying this? Parties can, and regularly do, challenge voter roles, make them appear in person and prove their citizenship and identity[0] No--that's proving residence. I said they can't require voters to prove their citizenship. [1] I didn't say parties can't challenge voter rolls, either. > If it makes you feel better, I don't believe that these Republicans are racist, I just think they implement racist laws because blacks largely vote democratic and they'd rather suppress them than actually do the hard work of outreach. But alas, it's largely useless to try and separate their intent from their actions - the end result is that they are seeking to disenfranchise voters based on their skin colors. That may be true. I'm not a Republican, though, so it seems unfair to dismiss my arguments based on unrelated actions. Some of them probably are legitimately racist, but that doesn't mean we should turn a blind eye to verifiable potential for voter fraud. I'll go as far as to say that some degree voter fraud is likely acceptable and expected in a system that strives to ensure nobody is hindered in their exercise of voting. Any inconvenience is going to turn people away and you can't possibly verify any more rigorously without adding inconvenience. The discussion is in where the line is. [1] http://www.politico.com/blogs/under-the-radar/2016/02/feds-back-court-ban-on-proof-of-citizenship-for-voter-registration-219618 http://www.politico.com/blogs/under-the-radar/2016/02/feds-b...