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I would argue this is far more serious than the phones that were recently recalled: > "The washing machine top can unexpectedly detach from the washing machine

by electic 10y ago

I would argue this is far more serious than the phones that were recently recalled: > "The washing machine top can unexpectedly detach from the washing machine chassis during use, posing a risk of injury from impact," according to the Consumer Product Safety Commission. How scary is that? This likely could cause death. You are talking about the water, clothes, and the weight of the drum flying out and potentially hitting you.

pat2man 10y ago
Phones that burst into flames could also cause death...
- FLGMwt 10y ago
  Not to mention you don't usually take your washing machine with you on a flight :p
  - foldr 10y ago
    It's highly unlikely that a phone catching fire in the cabin would bring a plane down.
    - zeusk 10y ago
      It (fire) is one of the most likely thing to bring down a plane.
      - foldr 10y ago
        Yes, but a small fire in the cabin should not spread to the rest of the plane. Plane manafacturers have figured out by now that making seats etc. out of flammable material is not a good idea. Also, I think it is statistically false that a large fraction of plane crashes are due to fire. In fact I don't even know of a plane crash that was caused by something in the passenger cabin itself catching fire.
    - mrep 10y ago
      One of my good friends works for Boeing to fireproof their planes. He has told me stories about planes going down because small fires that result in a crash. They also now state multiple times before they take off that anyone bringing a note 7 onto a plane must bring it to the front so they can put in a fireproof case or they will literally go to jail. Fires on planes are A BIG DEAL. Example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Canada_Flight_797 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Canada_Flight_797
      - foldr 10y ago
        >He has told me stories about planes going down because small fires that result in a crash. Plane crashes aren't kept secret. As far as I know, there are no instances of an in cabin fire causing a crash on a modern airliner. The fire you linked to was caused, most likely, by faulty wiring in an inaccessible part of the plane. A fire that happens inside the passenger cabin is likely to be detected immediately, and the crew have a very good chance of extinguishing it. It's also worth noting that the same kind of accident is unlikely to happen now owing to the additional safety measures that were mandated following the investigation. So, yes, a fire on a plane is a big deal. But the actual chances of a plane being brought down by a cell phone that catches fire are pretty small.
- electic 10y ago
  Seriously, this is a useless comment. Where in my comment did I say that a phone bursting in flames "will not cause death"? I only commented on the seriousness and probability of the washing machine likely causing death compared to a phone.
randyrand 10y ago
If you watch the video the aftermath does not look like it would be life threatening to be standing next to it. Could send you to the hospital though.
- mrestko 10y ago
  If you read the article, in at least one instance someone ended up with a broken jaw. That much force is definitely enough to kill someone, it would just depend where they were hit and their baseline health. Imagine a child standing next to the machine when it fell apart. Or an older person getting hit in the head.
- emodendroket 10y ago
  I don't know that it's that implausible that flying shrapnel could kill or seriously injure someone if it hit them in the right place.
- Too 10y ago
  Assuming 1400rpm and a 30cm radius loader, the edge is moving at over 150km/h. Probably close to 10kg material spinning around so that's a lot of energy. Not something I would like to be close to if it explodes.
dexterdog 10y ago
Top loaders do not spin as violently
- emodendroket 10y ago
  Gotta wonder about that claim in light of the story we're all discussing.
  - dexterdog 10y ago
    Non-scientific proof: https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=washing+machine+destruction https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=washing+machine...

by electic 10y ago

pat2man 10y ago

Phones that burst into flames could also cause death...

FLGMwt 10y ago
Not to mention you don't usually take your washing machine with you on a flight :p
- foldr 10y ago
  It's highly unlikely that a phone catching fire in the cabin would bring a plane down.
  - zeusk 10y ago
    It (fire) is one of the most likely thing to bring down a plane.
    - foldr 10y ago
      Yes, but a small fire in the cabin should not spread to the rest of the plane. Plane manafacturers have figured out by now that making seats etc. out of flammable material is not a good idea. Also, I think it is statistically false that a large fraction of plane crashes are due to fire. In fact I don't even know of a plane crash that was caused by something in the passenger cabin itself catching fire.
  - mrep 10y ago
    One of my good friends works for Boeing to fireproof their planes. He has told me stories about planes going down because small fires that result in a crash. They also now state multiple times before they take off that anyone bringing a note 7 onto a plane must bring it to the front so they can put in a fireproof case or they will literally go to jail. Fires on planes are A BIG DEAL. Example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Canada_Flight_797 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Canada_Flight_797
    - foldr 10y ago
      >He has told me stories about planes going down because small fires that result in a crash. Plane crashes aren't kept secret. As far as I know, there are no instances of an in cabin fire causing a crash on a modern airliner. The fire you linked to was caused, most likely, by faulty wiring in an inaccessible part of the plane. A fire that happens inside the passenger cabin is likely to be detected immediately, and the crew have a very good chance of extinguishing it. It's also worth noting that the same kind of accident is unlikely to happen now owing to the additional safety measures that were mandated following the investigation. So, yes, a fire on a plane is a big deal. But the actual chances of a plane being brought down by a cell phone that catches fire are pretty small.
electic 10y ago
Seriously, this is a useless comment. Where in my comment did I say that a phone bursting in flames "will not cause death"? I only commented on the seriousness and probability of the washing machine likely causing death compared to a phone.

randyrand 10y ago

If you watch the video the aftermath does not look like it would be life threatening to be standing next to it. Could send you to the hospital though.

mrestko 10y ago
If you read the article, in at least one instance someone ended up with a broken jaw. That much force is definitely enough to kill someone, it would just depend where they were hit and their baseline health. Imagine a child standing next to the machine when it fell apart. Or an older person getting hit in the head.
emodendroket 10y ago
I don't know that it's that implausible that flying shrapnel could kill or seriously injure someone if it hit them in the right place.
Too 10y ago
Assuming 1400rpm and a 30cm radius loader, the edge is moving at over 150km/h. Probably close to 10kg material spinning around so that's a lot of energy. Not something I would like to be close to if it explodes.

dexterdog 10y ago

Top loaders do not spin as violently

emodendroket 10y ago
Gotta wonder about that claim in light of the story we're all discussing.
- dexterdog 10y ago
  Non-scientific proof: https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=washing+machine+destruction https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=washing+machine...