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The worst part is that we see people attempting to refute good science with poor science because of almost entirely political reasons such as the fact we're sti

The worst part is that we see people attempting to refute good science with poor science because of almost entirely political reasons such as the fact we're still having debates on the mere existence of climate change and unsupported or entirely debunked fears of GMOs and nuclear power. Even worse, I don't think teaching science better in our schools will do anything to change this status quo due to the huge amounts of money poured into political agendas.

syshum 10y ago
>>I don't think teaching science better It is not about teaching science better, it is about teaching critical thinking at all. Schools, especially primary schools, are devoted to conformity, social acceptance, and political correctness They do not teach people to be critical of those in authority, or power. This drives out the required critical thinking a person needs when they hear dissent on climate change, or how GMO's will be the end of humanity instead they just accept it as fact because a person of authority in their lives(be it a politician, preacher, or even simply an older adult they look up to) has told them it is fact so it is fact.
- lsmarigo 10y ago
  Schools, especially primary schools, are devoted to conformity, social acceptance, and political correctness Bingo and well said! We condition our kids to accept everything they read in their textbooks as fact. Critical thinking is key and missing. When I was in grade 3 on MLK day our teacher split our class into 'races' by eye color and gave blue eyes treats made the brown eyes do work, it's a known/controversial exercise meant to teach about discrimination, which it did, but also it made us question authority. We should create exercises where teachers/staff purposely present incorrect or conflicting information to students, forcing them to regularly question the quality of the information and the motivations/agenda of the source.
  - fdgdasfadsf 10y ago
    In the UK basic level the English language exam sat by all 16 year olds did used to do this to some limited extent (you were given an advert and had to analyse it in terms of how it tried to persuade you etc).
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- devonkim 10y ago
  A lot of critical thinking and questioning of authority without the proper framework of rationality and methodology can backfire into turning more people into paranoid tinfoil hatters rather than critical thinkers with a healthy skepticism of leaders. Unfortunately, most of our current public education system was not designed to create thinkers as much as assembly line workers and this erodes the confidence in our education system by knee-jerk public institution haters that make up a great deal of the US population. I don't particularly like public anything but the either-or mentality that pervades public discourse really needs to be addressed for progress in discourse to proceed. Talking about the same wedge issues like we did 50 years ago as if nothing's changed since the issue came up is not progress in discourse at all by definition. It's reminiscent of many long, bad marriages - the arguments are always the same.

syshum 10y ago

>>I don't think teaching science better It is not about teaching science better, it is about teaching critical thinking at all. Schools, especially primary schools, are devoted to conformity, social acceptance, and political correctness They do not teach people to be critical of those in authority, or power. This drives out the required critical thinking a person needs when they hear dissent on climate change, or how GMO's will be the end of humanity instead they just accept it as fact because a person of authority in their lives(be it a politician, preacher, or even simply an older adult they look up to) has told them it is fact so it is fact.

lsmarigo 10y ago
Schools, especially primary schools, are devoted to conformity, social acceptance, and political correctness Bingo and well said! We condition our kids to accept everything they read in their textbooks as fact. Critical thinking is key and missing. When I was in grade 3 on MLK day our teacher split our class into 'races' by eye color and gave blue eyes treats made the brown eyes do work, it's a known/controversial exercise meant to teach about discrimination, which it did, but also it made us question authority. We should create exercises where teachers/staff purposely present incorrect or conflicting information to students, forcing them to regularly question the quality of the information and the motivations/agenda of the source.
- fdgdasfadsf 10y ago
  In the UK basic level the English language exam sat by all 16 year olds did used to do this to some limited extent (you were given an advert and had to analyse it in terms of how it tried to persuade you etc).
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devonkim 10y ago
A lot of critical thinking and questioning of authority without the proper framework of rationality and methodology can backfire into turning more people into paranoid tinfoil hatters rather than critical thinkers with a healthy skepticism of leaders. Unfortunately, most of our current public education system was not designed to create thinkers as much as assembly line workers and this erodes the confidence in our education system by knee-jerk public institution haters that make up a great deal of the US population. I don't particularly like public anything but the either-or mentality that pervades public discourse really needs to be addressed for progress in discourse to proceed. Talking about the same wedge issues like we did 50 years ago as if nothing's changed since the issue came up is not progress in discourse at all by definition. It's reminiscent of many long, bad marriages - the arguments are always the same.