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Mysterious 'ping' sound from sea floor baffles Igloolik
- hapless 10y agoWell, there go the methane clathrate deposits. It was nice knowing y'all.
- pavlov 10y agoEventually some spacefaring civilization will visit this system, note that the second and third planet are very similar and almost skip further exploration... But when they do, they'll be shocked to find out that one of the planets is a naturally developed hothouse hell while the other was turned that way by hapless inhabitants.
- mcbits 10y agoAfter we figure out how to increase the mass of our atmosphere 90-fold, maybe. Venus is around human body temperature at the altitude where atmospheric pressure is similar to Earth's.
- dr_zoidberg 10y agoThe most Earth-like environment on the Solar System (other than Earth, of course), ~50km high in Venus[0] :) And to think that humans could've gone there... [1] (mainly I refer to the Apollo Applications and TMK-MAVR, I'm skeptical about Inspiration Mars) [0] http://web.archive.org/web/20110807004311/http://gltrs.grc.nasa.gov/reports/2003/TM-2003-212310.pdf http://web.archive.org/web/20110807004311/http://gltrs.grc.n... [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manned_Venus_Flyby https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manned_Venus_Flyby
- Pxtl 10y agoIirc, the second-most human-like is Saturn, where there are zones of warm air at around 10atms, which is manageable for humans. Not as radioactive as Jupiter, but you can't float a zepplin in pure Hydrogen. Also, the wind speed would obliterate any aircraft.
- shagie 10y agoYou can. Just you need to go the route of a vacuum airship instead. Or go for a hot helium balloon. While admittedly science fiction, The Clouds of Saturn by Michael McCollum explores this a bit.
- sqeaky 10y agoNow I want to build a hot hydrogen balloon. Put some drone motors and rotors on it from control. Then one day land it near an open flame.
- Pxtl 10y agoWell, on Saturn thered be no oxygen to combust, so hot hydrogen could work, maybe (I'm suspicious that it would be able to lift the heat source much less the equipment). Hard part would be fuel to heat it.
- shagie 10y agoA chemistry professor that I was acquainted with did this as one of his lecture demonstrations. Shakhashiri (and he's still doing it - http://scifun.chem.wisc.edu/BZSPresentations/Presents.html http://scifun.chem.wisc.edu/BZSPresentations/Presents.html Once Upon a Christmas Cheery, In the Lab of Shakhashiri is going on its 47th year!). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tsgh_T59gE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tsgh_T59gE has what you are looking for (at 3:42 though you'll likely want to start a tad bit earlier).
- lholden 10y agoI love this comment :-D
- jfoster 10y agoExplanation for anyone who doesn't know what the parent is referring to: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clathrate_gun_hypothesis https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clathrate_gun_hypothesis
- XaspR8d 10y agoIs there any reason to connect subsea methane releases to this kind of sound, or any human-audible sound? I was under the impression it gradual dissolution (where "gradual" is not to diminish its geologic speed).
- acqq 10y agoThe news that are more recent: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/north/igloolik-ping-military-investigates-1.3835237 http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/north/igloolik-ping-military-i... "Military plane investigates mystery 'ping' near Igloolik Search turns up nothing"
- andrewflnr 10y ago> He said the noise apparently stopped after the military investigated. So, man-made.
- jklinger410 10y agoOr coincidence.
- andrewflnr 10y agoMaybe, I guess. But for it to go on so long and stop right as it gets seriously investigated is highly suspicious.
- Hondor 10y agoAnother explanation is that the people reporting it were lying and stopped their false reports when the investigation was happening to protect their lie.
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- astrodust 10y agoThe bank robbers fled after the cops arrived, so obviously it was an inside job.
- run4yourlives2 10y agoWhat that article doesn't point out for laymen is that the CP-140 is essentially a P-3 Orion: A specialized anti-submarine warfare aircraft equipped with a MAD[1] and sonobuoys[2]. It's a pretty capable maritime surveillance aircraft. The fact that the signal went dormant/was not able to be detected by something as sophisicated as an Aurora speaks volumes. 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_anomaly_detector https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_anomaly_detector) 2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonobuoy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonobuoy
- anotheryou 10y agoWhy can't they triangulate it? Too deep to go?
- AnimalMuppet 10y agoSound doesn't always travel in a straight line in the ocean. Different depths (pressures), different water temperatures, different salinity... they can all change the speed of propagation to some degree. Currents may also bend sound. Triangulation assumes that the sound traveled from the source to you at constant velocity in a straight line.
- anotheryou 10y agoI thought of something mobile, so you can home in. But very interesting to learn it can be bend and reflects so much .
- AnimalMuppet 10y agoI don't know if it's "so much". I can think of several causes, but I don't know how big the overall effect is.
- imglorp 10y agoA good question at least is, did it show up on any seismograph or hydrophone networks?
- jjoonathan 10y agoEven if it did, they're probably not going to say anything because they don't want to give away their capabilities and/or they were responsible for it in the first place.
- jhwhite 10y agoGodzilla. It's the only logical explanation.
- SEJeff 10y agoor THE KRAKEN!
- the_watcher 10y agoMy first thought was "Kaiju are coming"
- carterehsmith 10y agoNonono. Godzilla loves (hates?) Tokyo. This is Canada stuff. Maybe this guy is involved: http://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/ogopogo/ http://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/ogopogo/
- krylon 10y agoIt's the Ping of Death, obviously.
- nom 10y agoMysterious, unlocateable sounds have always fascinated me. Right now I was just looking for that impossible to triangulate low frequency vibration that plagued that one town i can't remember, but then I typed "mysterious sound" into YT and found out about this world wide event [1] [2] that occurred this year Jan 9-14 and nobody was able to explain it 1: https://youtu.be/mTOQvDzihTU?t=223 https://youtu.be/mTOQvDzihTU?t=223 2: http://strangesounds.org/2016/01/unexplained-booms-increase-us-uk-january-2016-video.html http://strangesounds.org/2016/01/unexplained-booms-increase-...
- NetStrikeForce 10y agoThere's another referenced in the article, too.
- astrodust 10y agoThere's going to be a whole lot more of these mysterious sounds because of climate change. Nobody knows what it sounds like when the permafrost starts to thaw and methane starts to bubble out of it. Russia's already seeing some very strange geological effects: http://www.businessinsider.com/russian-exploding-permafrost-methane-craters-global-warming-2016-6 http://www.businessinsider.com/russian-exploding-permafrost-... This ping could be methane ice under the ocean melting, a sound akin to the cracking of ice cubes in water: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methane_clathrate https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methane_clathrate
- davesque 10y agoI sure as fuck hope not. Melting clathrates would be an unimaginable disaster for the climate.
- astrodust 10y agoLike it or not but we're already well into the "unimaginable disaster" phase for climate change. The biggest group of climate change denialists are those scientists that insist we can cap things at 2°, which at this point is about the same as thinking that Santa is real.
- EmmEff 10y agoRussian sub...
- joshuaheard 10y agoA seismic anomaly?
- danaliv 10y agoWhales humping.
- eeZah7Ux 10y agoOne ping only.
- nom 10y agoThis paragraph somewhere in the middle caught my eye: „He also says some of his constituents suspect the sound is being generated on purpose by Greenpeace to scare wildlife away from the rich hunting ground. The organization has a tense past with Inuit stemming from its opposition to the seal hunt in the 1970s and 1980s.“
- social_quotient 10y agoI'd think it was Megatron but "Revenge of the fallen" happened.
- cyberferret 10y agoLocator beacon ping from another US 'broken arrow' ?? (Sorry, got carried away with the other 'discovery of a broken arrow' thread here yesterday!)
- yoda_sl 10y agoReminds me of a book from Barjavel (French author): The Ice People https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ice_People_(Barjavel_novel) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ice_People_(Barjavel_nov...
- gitaarik 10y agoThis could as well be some organization's military machine that they're experimenting with. Just like how mysterious objects in the sky could be explained. It's actually the most logical explanation in most of these mysterious cases. This is explained well in the awesome recent documentary "Hypernormalisation". Check it out!
- marricks 10y agoGiven the escalation between Russia and the US a sub making the sound wouldn't be the most surprising thing, that is far north Canada...
- kilroy123 10y agoIn that location? That's a very bizarre place for a sub to be.
- codeonfire 10y agoWhy is that bizarre? It looks like a major passage to me. In a nuclear first strike scenario you want your nukes to be right at the front door so hopefully you can take out some silos before they launch. The militaries of the world have no doubt sprinkled hundreds of thousands of sea floor devices around the world since probably the 1950's. Some are probably nuclear powered, long since forgotten about, and will continue to emit for decades. There are fleets of autonomous ocean vehicles that go and gather their data and transmit it to satellites.
- int0x80 10y agoYeah. I'm totally smelling Commie plot right there. :P
- debt 10y agoor just very sophisticated economic warfare
- GarrisonPrime 10y agoA 300 year-old human spaceship? :)
- simooooo 10y agoIt's ice creaking
- louithethrid 10y agoTriangulate, Track, Destroy ?