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> And what will your island paradise look like with no one to trade with or if your financial firm collapses? NZ doesn't have much of an economy in itself, what

> And what will your island paradise look like with no one to trade with or if your financial firm collapses? NZ doesn't have much of an economy in itself, what are you going to do, go back to farming? these locations aren't just for vacations. they are stocked with supplies and probably guns and ammo. if the SHTF, they'll be on the first (private jet) flight out of london, hk, zurich, or new york. why do you think they chose a place so remote? there are nicer places a lot closer. they just don't have the infrastructure that new zealand has, and the natural oceanic protection. as a bonus, they also have a military that is closely tied to the commonwealth crown. how convenient. it used to be normal to prepare for disaster. in california they taught us how to do it in elementary school in the 90s, for earthquakes. now people think it's crazy. it's not. normal people do this too. who do you think is buying up all the ammo before elections? i know people who have boats, trucks, etc. for the purposes of preparedness. one thing a fund manager or CEO knows how to do is hedge against risks.

lumberjack 10y ago
>normal people do this too. who do you think is buying up all the ammo before elections? The people behind the prepping industry are just affiliate marketers for the most part.
- hga 10y ago
  Errr, it's a lot more complicated than that. People in the US have been buying up ammo at > 10 billion (thousand million) rounds/year rates for more than a decade now (US civilian production is > 12 billion/year, which doesn't count imports and not, I think, surplus and seconds from Lake City production), and I haven't noticed big movements before elections (after, for sure).
LouisSayers 10y ago
"as a bonus, they also have a military that is closely tied to the commonwealth crown. how convenient." ... well seeming NZ is a commonwealth country it's not some convenience, it's history. And it sounds like you think NZ has some huge military power. I think we have like one jet plane, so stock all the guns you want, I imagine in the case all the allies die and Russia invades we'd probably just give them a welcome ceremony.
- Koshkin 10y ago
  > Russia invades Unless they are using one of those world maps...
- beachstartup 10y ago
  i didn't mean 'how convenient' in any sarcastic way, i was literally saying.. it's convenient that your getaway island also has a military. most don't. and nobody said any of it was rational. it's just what people do. i live in earthquake country so i have water and canned food and a means of defense. some people have taken this mindset to an extreme, including buying large homes on remote island countries and a private jet for trips there.
gaius 10y ago
they also have a military that is closely tied to the commonwealth crown They have unit that is world-class in the NZSAS, which trains with the original SAS, but the entire NZ Army would be considered a mere brigade anywhere else. Their Air Force has zero fighters. They were booted out of a mutual defence pact with the US when they refused to allow nuclear-powered vessels to dock. Basically anyone with a blue-water navy and a Marine Corps could roll them in a day. Counting on the NZ military to protect you in the event of an apocalypse is likely to be unwise.

lumberjack 10y ago

>normal people do this too. who do you think is buying up all the ammo before elections? The people behind the prepping industry are just affiliate marketers for the most part.

hga 10y ago
Errr, it's a lot more complicated than that. People in the US have been buying up ammo at > 10 billion (thousand million) rounds/year rates for more than a decade now (US civilian production is > 12 billion/year, which doesn't count imports and not, I think, surplus and seconds from Lake City production), and I haven't noticed big movements before elections (after, for sure).

LouisSayers 10y ago

"as a bonus, they also have a military that is closely tied to the commonwealth crown. how convenient." ... well seeming NZ is a commonwealth country it's not some convenience, it's history. And it sounds like you think NZ has some huge military power. I think we have like one jet plane, so stock all the guns you want, I imagine in the case all the allies die and Russia invades we'd probably just give them a welcome ceremony.

Koshkin 10y ago
> Russia invades Unless they are using one of those world maps...
beachstartup 10y ago
i didn't mean 'how convenient' in any sarcastic way, i was literally saying.. it's convenient that your getaway island also has a military. most don't. and nobody said any of it was rational. it's just what people do. i live in earthquake country so i have water and canned food and a means of defense. some people have taken this mindset to an extreme, including buying large homes on remote island countries and a private jet for trips there.

gaius 10y ago

they also have a military that is closely tied to the commonwealth crown They have unit that is world-class in the NZSAS, which trains with the original SAS, but the entire NZ Army would be considered a mere brigade anywhere else. Their Air Force has zero fighters. They were booted out of a mutual defence pact with the US when they refused to allow nuclear-powered vessels to dock. Basically anyone with a blue-water navy and a Marine Corps could roll them in a day. Counting on the NZ military to protect you in the event of an apocalypse is likely to be unwise.