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While it may be true that the OP is "doing well" salary wise, your comment detracts from the point he is making. just because someone makes a lot of money does

While it may be true that the OP is "doing well" salary wise, your comment detracts from the point he is making. just because someone makes a lot of money doesn't mean that their problems are any less valid.

yequalsx 10y ago
I think it is more OP calling the world mad when $6000,000NZ is the price range for a "decent" house. Heck, even the ability to move to another country is luxury enough. The 1% calling crazy what the 0.1% do is laughable to most I presume. I'm in the 1% so I'm not sure how the 80% really view such comments but I imagine it's farcical to them.
- AvenueIngres 10y ago
  OP is upper middle class, at best. Let's not use rethoric that would only apply to people that are actually considerably wealthy regardless of the comparative entity you choose to rank them against i.e billionaires and millionaires. A couple trying to buy a nice house with their combined salaries isn't insane. In particular when that is the norm they were used to and who is slowly disintegrating.
  - yequalsx 10y ago
    In terms of purchasing power for the world they are not upper middle class. They are in the higher eschalons in terms of wealth and economic means. I don't decry their plight but rather seek to put context to it. People in their income bracket have driven up land and housing prices in Belize, Costa Rica, Panama, Thailand, and elsewhere. That didn't make the world crazy in their eyes but having prices driven up in Auckland did. That perspective is crazy.
  - hexane360 10y ago
    http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/07/16/are-you-in-the-global-middle-class-find-out-with-our-income-calculator/ http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/07/16/are-you-in-t... $80,000 USD for 4 people is "High Income" globally.
- te_chris 10y ago
  600k NZD is mad, in my life experience. It's a crazy amount of money compared to average incomes in NZ - especially for a house that likely needs work.
akvadrako 10y ago
Of course it does. People with money have options - they have no excuses for not being comfortable with their life. The poor guy can only choose among a few places on earth to live, needs to work a lot and will have a hard time surviving otherwise. This complaining guy can live basically anywhere or could have been living at the level of the poor guy and retire after a few years of earning his 99th percentile income. I just can't fathom the mindset of people who think they deserve to live a high society lifestyle. Their position is FAPP strictly better than 99% of people currently alive on Earth.
- pc86 10y ago
  Standard of living is relative but largely local/regional. Saying that everyone in NZ has it made because they should just be happy they weren't born in Bangladesh or something is incredibly short-sighted.
  - Nydhal 10y ago
    Thinking on a global scale is the literal opposite of short-sightedness.

yequalsx 10y ago

I think it is more OP calling the world mad when $6000,000NZ is the price range for a "decent" house. Heck, even the ability to move to another country is luxury enough. The 1% calling crazy what the 0.1% do is laughable to most I presume. I'm in the 1% so I'm not sure how the 80% really view such comments but I imagine it's farcical to them.

AvenueIngres 10y ago
OP is upper middle class, at best. Let's not use rethoric that would only apply to people that are actually considerably wealthy regardless of the comparative entity you choose to rank them against i.e billionaires and millionaires. A couple trying to buy a nice house with their combined salaries isn't insane. In particular when that is the norm they were used to and who is slowly disintegrating.
- yequalsx 10y ago
  In terms of purchasing power for the world they are not upper middle class. They are in the higher eschalons in terms of wealth and economic means. I don't decry their plight but rather seek to put context to it. People in their income bracket have driven up land and housing prices in Belize, Costa Rica, Panama, Thailand, and elsewhere. That didn't make the world crazy in their eyes but having prices driven up in Auckland did. That perspective is crazy.
- hexane360 10y ago
  http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/07/16/are-you-in-the-global-middle-class-find-out-with-our-income-calculator/ http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/07/16/are-you-in-t... $80,000 USD for 4 people is "High Income" globally.
te_chris 10y ago
600k NZD is mad, in my life experience. It's a crazy amount of money compared to average incomes in NZ - especially for a house that likely needs work.

akvadrako 10y ago

Of course it does. People with money have options - they have no excuses for not being comfortable with their life. The poor guy can only choose among a few places on earth to live, needs to work a lot and will have a hard time surviving otherwise. This complaining guy can live basically anywhere or could have been living at the level of the poor guy and retire after a few years of earning his 99th percentile income. I just can't fathom the mindset of people who think they deserve to live a high society lifestyle. Their position is FAPP strictly better than 99% of people currently alive on Earth.

pc86 10y ago
Standard of living is relative but largely local/regional. Saying that everyone in NZ has it made because they should just be happy they weren't born in Bangladesh or something is incredibly short-sighted.
- Nydhal 10y ago
  Thinking on a global scale is the literal opposite of short-sightedness.