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One gotcha is that the degree might not be accredited. At least that is what I understand from this sentence in the article: "It’s a £15m project which, if succ

One gotcha is that the degree might not be accredited. At least that is what I understand from this sentence in the article: "It’s a £15m project which, if successful, Dyson hopes to eventually gain university status and award its own degrees to up to 100 students a year." However I admire Dyson's efforts to train the people they need. Edit: Actually maybe it is accredited. From the Dyson Institute's FAQs: "What is the Dyson Institute of Technology? The Dyson Institute of Technology teaches high quality engineering degrees to the next generation of tech enthusiasts, alongside a full time role at Dyson. During this four year programme you’ll learn about engineering through hands-on experience in our Research and Development department with academic training provided by WMG, the University of Warwick. You'll graduate with a Bachelor of Engineering degree."

chrisseaton 10y ago
I think a bachelor degree would be unusual for the UK. Aren't most engineering degrees in the UK undergraduate masters?
- alexbilbie 10y ago
  Not necessarily; the University of Lincoln which has one of the newest engineering schools (in partnership with Siemens) offers undergraduate bachelor of engineering degrees - http://lincoln.ac.uk/home/engineering/undergraduate/ http://lincoln.ac.uk/home/engineering/undergraduate/
- gadders 10y ago
  You normally do a Bachelor of Engineering - B.Eng.
  - chrisseaton 10y ago
    I think if you apply to any university they'll strongly recommend that you should be doing the MEng instead. The BEng isn't enough to even get chartered is it? So you'd need to do another degree anyway.
    - paperpunk 10y ago
      If the unis I've looked at are any indication then many offer an integrated masters programme but most students will be on the bachelors route. At the institution where I work (Uni of York) many more BEng degrees are awarded than MEng.
    - lol768 10y ago
      You don't need the Masters degree to be a chartered engineer as far as I know. If you graduate and gain enough experience on the job (probably more cost effective than being at uni for another year) to be considered to have an equivalent standard of education I believe you can become a CEng with a presentation.
prefect42 10y ago
That last sentence is not a clear statement. Is that supposed to mean: that any accreditation by UofWarwick somehow applies to Dyson as well? The FAQ simply doesn't mention any accreditation whatsoever specifically for Dyson. Could be rather important, one way or the other.
- nicoburns 10y ago
  It's fairly standard for non-academic teaching organisations to have their degrees sponsored by an established university. For example the Centre for Alternative Technology offers a number of masters courses without itself being a university [0]. This is probably more common for postgrad courses, but no reason why it couldn't work for undergrad too. https://gse.cat.org.uk https://gse.cat.org.uk
  - dbbk 10y ago
    It's actually also quite common for undergraduate courses in the media industries.
  - KJP191 10y ago
    Academic teaching organisations too, for that matter. It's quite common for a college to also offer some degree-level courses that are accredited by a local university. (Note to non-Brits: "college" in the UK is mostly for lower-level and vocational courses, it's not a synonym for university like in the US)

chrisseaton 10y ago

I think a bachelor degree would be unusual for the UK. Aren't most engineering degrees in the UK undergraduate masters?

alexbilbie 10y ago
Not necessarily; the University of Lincoln which has one of the newest engineering schools (in partnership with Siemens) offers undergraduate bachelor of engineering degrees - http://lincoln.ac.uk/home/engineering/undergraduate/ http://lincoln.ac.uk/home/engineering/undergraduate/
gadders 10y ago
You normally do a Bachelor of Engineering - B.Eng.
- chrisseaton 10y ago
  I think if you apply to any university they'll strongly recommend that you should be doing the MEng instead. The BEng isn't enough to even get chartered is it? So you'd need to do another degree anyway.
  - paperpunk 10y ago
    If the unis I've looked at are any indication then many offer an integrated masters programme but most students will be on the bachelors route. At the institution where I work (Uni of York) many more BEng degrees are awarded than MEng.
  - lol768 10y ago
    You don't need the Masters degree to be a chartered engineer as far as I know. If you graduate and gain enough experience on the job (probably more cost effective than being at uni for another year) to be considered to have an equivalent standard of education I believe you can become a CEng with a presentation.

prefect42 10y ago

That last sentence is not a clear statement. Is that supposed to mean: that any accreditation by UofWarwick somehow applies to Dyson as well? The FAQ simply doesn't mention any accreditation whatsoever specifically for Dyson. Could be rather important, one way or the other.

nicoburns 10y ago
It's fairly standard for non-academic teaching organisations to have their degrees sponsored by an established university. For example the Centre for Alternative Technology offers a number of masters courses without itself being a university [0]. This is probably more common for postgrad courses, but no reason why it couldn't work for undergrad too. https://gse.cat.org.uk https://gse.cat.org.uk
- dbbk 10y ago
  It's actually also quite common for undergraduate courses in the media industries.
- KJP191 10y ago
  Academic teaching organisations too, for that matter. It's quite common for a college to also offer some degree-level courses that are accredited by a local university. (Note to non-Brits: "college" in the UK is mostly for lower-level and vocational courses, it's not a synonym for university like in the US)