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Could replace the batteries with fuel and we'd have the same story, I've seen some horrific car fires from conventional combustion engines. You're always drivi

by bArray 10y ago

Could replace the batteries with fuel and we'd have the same story, I've seen some horrific car fires from conventional combustion engines. You're always driving around with a lot of energy - when it all gets released at once people die.

admax88q 10y ago
> I've seen some horrific car fires from conventional combustion engines. Yay anecdotes! The real question is whether or not battery fires are harder to put out than gasoline fires. The current recommended practice for a lithium ion battery fire is to let the fire burn itself out...
- Declanomous 10y ago
  That's all well and good if the fire takes place on a normal road, but that seems extremely dangerous if the fire takes place in a tunnel or on/under a bridge. Are we going to need autonomous vehicles to drag burning cars out of tunnels so they don't cause structural damage? Not trying to knock electric cars, I'm a huge proponent of them, I just am not a fan of hand-waving about safety. Vehicles are probably the most destructive thing most people own. You can literally cause tens of millions of dollars in damage with a car merely through negligence. Pretty hard to do that with anything else normal people have access to.
  - bArray 10y ago
    >Are we going to need autonomous vehicles to drag burning cars out of tunnels so they don't cause structural damage? Even then, I imagine a lot of damage being done extremely quickly. I think the way forward is with damage limitation when crashes eventually happen. >Vehicles are probably the most destructive thing most people own. You can literally cause tens of millions of dollars in damage with a car merely through negligence. Pretty hard to do that with anything else normal people have access to. Ever seen an old person forget they left the gas cooker on? But sure, with great power comes great responsibility. I can see automotive law becoming stricter as a result given the damage that can be done.
- bArray 10y ago
  >Yay anecdotes! I'm not claiming superior knowledge, just sharing my experience. Experience is valuable too. If you have facts the show something alternative, bring them to the conversation. I have involvement with an automotive business that buys cars that have been written off. In short, I see a lot of cars and how they failed. >The real question is whether or not battery fires are harder to put out than gasoline fires. >The current recommended practice for a lithium ion battery fire is to let the fire burn itself out... Good point. Actually, I think better pre-crash measures need to be taken. If a battery is about to explode, I imagine it be possible to control where that explosion happens, i.e. directed away from the cockpit.

by bArray 10y ago

admax88q 10y ago

> I've seen some horrific car fires from conventional combustion engines. Yay anecdotes! The real question is whether or not battery fires are harder to put out than gasoline fires. The current recommended practice for a lithium ion battery fire is to let the fire burn itself out...

Declanomous 10y ago
That's all well and good if the fire takes place on a normal road, but that seems extremely dangerous if the fire takes place in a tunnel or on/under a bridge. Are we going to need autonomous vehicles to drag burning cars out of tunnels so they don't cause structural damage? Not trying to knock electric cars, I'm a huge proponent of them, I just am not a fan of hand-waving about safety. Vehicles are probably the most destructive thing most people own. You can literally cause tens of millions of dollars in damage with a car merely through negligence. Pretty hard to do that with anything else normal people have access to.
- bArray 10y ago
  >Are we going to need autonomous vehicles to drag burning cars out of tunnels so they don't cause structural damage? Even then, I imagine a lot of damage being done extremely quickly. I think the way forward is with damage limitation when crashes eventually happen. >Vehicles are probably the most destructive thing most people own. You can literally cause tens of millions of dollars in damage with a car merely through negligence. Pretty hard to do that with anything else normal people have access to. Ever seen an old person forget they left the gas cooker on? But sure, with great power comes great responsibility. I can see automotive law becoming stricter as a result given the damage that can be done.
bArray 10y ago
>Yay anecdotes! I'm not claiming superior knowledge, just sharing my experience. Experience is valuable too. If you have facts the show something alternative, bring them to the conversation. I have involvement with an automotive business that buys cars that have been written off. In short, I see a lot of cars and how they failed. >The real question is whether or not battery fires are harder to put out than gasoline fires. >The current recommended practice for a lithium ion battery fire is to let the fire burn itself out... Good point. Actually, I think better pre-crash measures need to be taken. If a battery is about to explode, I imagine it be possible to control where that explosion happens, i.e. directed away from the cockpit.