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>why wouldn't any local media playback seek backwards and reconstruct the full frame? Most codecs/players do. VLC used to be criticized for being different in
by noisem4ker 10y ago
>why wouldn't any local media playback seek backwards and reconstruct the full frame?
Most codecs/players do. VLC used to be criticized for being different in that regard. One possible advantage is istantaneous seeking, as there's no need to decode all the needed frames (which could amount to several seconds of video) between the nearest I-frames[1] (the complete reference pictures) and the desired one.
[1]: plural, because prediction can also be bidirectional in time
The use of incomplete video frame data for artistic purposes is called "datamoshing".
- kakarot 10y agoI try to use VLC when I can because it offers intuitive playlist support, but for high-resolution H.264 and friends I usually have to switch to Media Player Classic. VLC is willing to let my entire screen look like a blob of grey alien shit for 10 seconds instead of just taking a moment to reconstruct frames. And its hardware acceleration for newer codecs is balls. Sucks because otherwise, it's right up there with f2k for me.
- logicallee 10y ago>VLC is willing to let my entire screen look like a blob of grey alien shit for 10 seconds instead of just taking a moment to reconstruct frames. Yes, this is what I was talking about, and yes, specifically for VLC. Plus it's not like playback is so taxing that all cores are pegged at 100% during playback. When I seek, VLC should get off its ass and scramble to come up with the correct full frame then. I'll wait.
- jdmichal 10y agoI recently bought a camera that has 4k video recording. VLC just gives up playing the video. Even Windows Media Player can handle it. No idea what's going on, but I was really surprised and disappointed with VLC.
- voltagex_ 10y agoSee if you can cut a small segment and submit it as a sample to ffmpeg. Hell, see if ffprobe and ffmpeg can play it. Happy to help, if you've got enough upstream bandwidth.
- jdmichal 10y agoSure. I'll give those a try tonight. I assume if it works in `ffplay` directly, there's no need to submit it?
- TheAceOfHearts 10y agoI stopped using VLC when I found mpv [0]. I really like it because it exposes everything from the CLI, so once you're familiarized with the flags you're interested in using, it's easy to play anything. For everyday usage it "just works" too, as expected of any video player. [0] https://mpv.io/ https://mpv.io/
- kakarot 10y agoI'll check it out and let you know what I think. Thanks~
- nitrogen 10y agoHow does it compare to mplayer? My biggest complaint about mplayer is it still doesn't play VFR videos well.
- 77pt77 10y agoI've tried it. * Sane defaults (encodings and fonts, scaletempo for audio) * instantaneous play of next and previous videos * navigation in random playlist actually works * Easy always on top key binding * Most mplayer key bindings work I'll definitely keep on trying it for a while.
- Drdrdrq 10y agoDoes it include all the codecs by default? I think this was a major reason VLC succeeded the way it did. With all other players (BPlayer anyone?) you needed to find and install tons of codecs while in VLC it just worked.
- 77pt77 10y agoIt has played everything I've thrown at it so far...
- kakarot 10y agoman... that's a big manual :) I think I can find some use for this in certain situations. Still lacks a good playlist building schema.
- rahkiin 10y agoIsn't the other advantage that VLC can play incomplete movie files? Any other players I have tried 'crash' on incomplete torrents, when VLC just fails until it finds the next I frame.