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There are plenty of MacBook Pro alternatives that have identical hardware but have a wider range of ports: Microsoft Surface Book Razor Stealth Dell XPS 13

by moftz 10y ago

There are plenty of MacBook Pro alternatives that have identical hardware but have a wider range of ports: Microsoft Surface Book Razor Stealth Dell XPS 13 Unless you are sticking with the macOS ecosystem for old time's sake, it's trivial to switch to a Windows workflow.

woah 10y ago
Or if you need to use Mac software, or don't like the buggy and unpolished windows ecosystem
anexprogrammer 10y ago
Or you're on Windows at the moment and wish to go back to macOS, but the new MB 12 style shit travel-free keyboards and the other hardware/ports choices now stop you.
pantalaimon 10y ago
> Unless you are sticking with the macOS ecosystem for old time's sake, it's trivial to switch to a Windows workflow. Or Linux for that matter.
- jwr 10y ago
  If only it were true. I have to write a blog post about this. As someone who regularly uses all three major operating systems: Mac OS sucks the least, by a wide margin. It's not even close.
rbanffy 10y ago
And, with the Windows workflow, you'll have extra breaks whenever the computer decides it has to reboot because Microsoft wants to install something.
- endemic 10y ago
  IIRC if you pay for the "Pro" version of Windows, you can defer updates.
- zanecodes 10y ago
  https://superuser.com/questions/973009/conclusively-stop-wake-timers-from-waking-windows-10-desktop/973029#973029 https://superuser.com/questions/973009/conclusively-stop-wak... I can confirm that this works on Windows 10 Home edition.
- equalarrow 10y ago
  This is true of macOS as well now. You can defer it, but you're nagged pretty consistently. There was a time I remember when installing updates on OS X didn't require a reboot unless it an os update. Now, so many things are tied together. This doesn't require a system reboot, but if you're updating Xcode, you can't if iTunes is open. I understand shared libs and things, but I don't really see that much difference anymore between rebooting for Windows updates and macOS updates. YMMV I guess.
- Corrado 10y ago
  I'm in the beta program for macOS Sierra and the last 2 updates have tried rebooting my computer without any warning whatsoever. The only thing that "saved" me was having iTerm up and running and it won't close with active terminals open. In the past, OS X was really good about asking for permission to update. Now it just assumes that I'm ready whenever it is. Maybe there is a setting to turn that behaviour off, if so I don't know what it is and it's really starting to make me doubt Apple's commitment to professional tools in a whole other fashion.
drivingmenuts 10y ago
I guess I'm lucky - both of my MBPs are new enough to not need immediate upgrades (other than a new SSD, maybe). Hopefully, by the time I do need an upgrade, if there is a real upgrade, Apple will have sorted out the whole keyboard thing.

by moftz 10y ago

woah 10y ago

Or if you need to use Mac software, or don't like the buggy and unpolished windows ecosystem

anexprogrammer 10y ago

Or you're on Windows at the moment and wish to go back to macOS, but the new MB 12 style shit travel-free keyboards and the other hardware/ports choices now stop you.

pantalaimon 10y ago

> Unless you are sticking with the macOS ecosystem for old time's sake, it's trivial to switch to a Windows workflow. Or Linux for that matter.

jwr 10y ago
If only it were true. I have to write a blog post about this. As someone who regularly uses all three major operating systems: Mac OS sucks the least, by a wide margin. It's not even close.

rbanffy 10y ago

And, with the Windows workflow, you'll have extra breaks whenever the computer decides it has to reboot because Microsoft wants to install something.

endemic 10y ago
IIRC if you pay for the "Pro" version of Windows, you can defer updates.
zanecodes 10y ago
https://superuser.com/questions/973009/conclusively-stop-wake-timers-from-waking-windows-10-desktop/973029#973029 https://superuser.com/questions/973009/conclusively-stop-wak... I can confirm that this works on Windows 10 Home edition.
equalarrow 10y ago
This is true of macOS as well now. You can defer it, but you're nagged pretty consistently. There was a time I remember when installing updates on OS X didn't require a reboot unless it an os update. Now, so many things are tied together. This doesn't require a system reboot, but if you're updating Xcode, you can't if iTunes is open. I understand shared libs and things, but I don't really see that much difference anymore between rebooting for Windows updates and macOS updates. YMMV I guess.
Corrado 10y ago
I'm in the beta program for macOS Sierra and the last 2 updates have tried rebooting my computer without any warning whatsoever. The only thing that "saved" me was having iTerm up and running and it won't close with active terminals open. In the past, OS X was really good about asking for permission to update. Now it just assumes that I'm ready whenever it is. Maybe there is a setting to turn that behaviour off, if so I don't know what it is and it's really starting to make me doubt Apple's commitment to professional tools in a whole other fashion.

drivingmenuts 10y ago

I guess I'm lucky - both of my MBPs are new enough to not need immediate upgrades (other than a new SSD, maybe). Hopefully, by the time I do need an upgrade, if there is a real upgrade, Apple will have sorted out the whole keyboard thing.