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I'm not from Egypt, but my understanding is: 1) Mubarak was an unelected dictator; he was replaced by a democratically elected government. 2) Morsi was democr

I'm not from Egypt, but my understanding is: 1) Mubarak was an unelected dictator; he was replaced by a democratically elected government. 2) Morsi was democratically elected and replaced by a military dictatorship; thus it was a coup.

myf01d 10y ago
1) Mubarak was elected democratically in 2005. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egyptian_presidential_election,_2005 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egyptian_presidential_election... 2) Mubarak was also forced to resign by the same military council in February 2011 and the military council ruled until June 2012 when morsi was elected, it just wasn't called a "coup" and "military dictatorship" back then by the western media.
- hackuser 10y ago
  > 1) Mubarak was elected democratically in 2005. Stalin and many (most?) other dictators also have staged elections. From the article you linked: ---- Of the 30 proposed candidates, only 10 were allowed to participate in the presidential election by the Presidential Election Commission. One prominent candidate not allowed to run was Talaat Sadat, the nephew of former President Anwar Sadat, who appealed his disqualification unsuccessfully. Egypt's largest Islamic group, the Muslim Brotherhood, was not permitted to field a candidate ... ---- And also: official results showing he won 88.6% of the vote. Mubarak's opponent, Ayman Nour, of the Tomorrow Party, is estimated to have received 7.3% of the vote and Numan Gumaa received 2.8%, Numbers like that are unseen in any legitimate election. The highest in U.S. history was 61%.
  - myf01d 10y ago
    Still not more dictatorial than detaining tens of thousands and even freeing thousand of criminals to get some room for the alleged coup plotters, a coup where a couple of hundred young soldiers most of whom didn't even know what was going on, and laying off hundreds of thousands of people from all professions (academia, sport, journalism). At the same time, his army is crushing kurd civilians not only in Turkey, but now in Syria and Iraq. Who is more like Stalin do you think? Mubarak or Erdogan?
    - triplesec 10y ago
      So they're all rubbish. What would constitute a good system of government in Egypt?
  - markdown 10y ago
    > The highest in U.S. history was 61%. That's not surprising since the US doesn't make election day a public holiday.
    - jospoortvliet 10y ago
      he didn't mean attendance but percentage of votes for the winner.
frandroid 10y ago
2.0a) As soon as Morsi got elected, his Muslim Brotherhood started passing laws to make the country in their image, and in a short period of time, would have become an Islamic dictatorship. I'm no fan of Sissi's coup but there was no democratic outcome after that election.

myf01d 10y ago

1) Mubarak was elected democratically in 2005. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egyptian_presidential_election,_2005 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egyptian_presidential_election... 2) Mubarak was also forced to resign by the same military council in February 2011 and the military council ruled until June 2012 when morsi was elected, it just wasn't called a "coup" and "military dictatorship" back then by the western media.

hackuser 10y ago
> 1) Mubarak was elected democratically in 2005. Stalin and many (most?) other dictators also have staged elections. From the article you linked: ---- Of the 30 proposed candidates, only 10 were allowed to participate in the presidential election by the Presidential Election Commission. One prominent candidate not allowed to run was Talaat Sadat, the nephew of former President Anwar Sadat, who appealed his disqualification unsuccessfully. Egypt's largest Islamic group, the Muslim Brotherhood, was not permitted to field a candidate ... ---- And also: official results showing he won 88.6% of the vote. Mubarak's opponent, Ayman Nour, of the Tomorrow Party, is estimated to have received 7.3% of the vote and Numan Gumaa received 2.8%, Numbers like that are unseen in any legitimate election. The highest in U.S. history was 61%.
- myf01d 10y ago
  Still not more dictatorial than detaining tens of thousands and even freeing thousand of criminals to get some room for the alleged coup plotters, a coup where a couple of hundred young soldiers most of whom didn't even know what was going on, and laying off hundreds of thousands of people from all professions (academia, sport, journalism). At the same time, his army is crushing kurd civilians not only in Turkey, but now in Syria and Iraq. Who is more like Stalin do you think? Mubarak or Erdogan?
  - triplesec 10y ago
    So they're all rubbish. What would constitute a good system of government in Egypt?
- markdown 10y ago
  > The highest in U.S. history was 61%. That's not surprising since the US doesn't make election day a public holiday.
  - jospoortvliet 10y ago
    he didn't mean attendance but percentage of votes for the winner.

frandroid 10y ago

2.0a) As soon as Morsi got elected, his Muslim Brotherhood started passing laws to make the country in their image, and in a short period of time, would have become an Islamic dictatorship. I'm no fan of Sissi's coup but there was no democratic outcome after that election.