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This should never happen until the web radically changes. I'm fine with the "web" being the future if it can provide truly native experiences. It simply can't d

by blkhp19 10y ago

This should never happen until the web radically changes. I'm fine with the "web" being the future if it can provide truly native experiences. It simply can't do that now. 1. People aren't downloading apps because they have most of the core apps they want/need currently, not because they're browsing the web instead. Look around on any college or high school campus. Barely anyone has mobile safari open. They have instagram, snapchat, a messaging app, and maybe Facebook open. 2. Bots are the future? We'll see. Nobody besides tech people seem to care about bots. I'm in tech and I don't even care about bots - yet. And again, look at today's high schoolers and college students - they don't care about bots.

aligajani 10y ago
Why are you using 'college kids' as some metric?
amirmansour 10y ago
> Barely anyone has mobile safari open. I believe you are misinformed about this one. Not only is mobile Safari open, but it's open with a bunch of tabs.
- wingerlang 10y ago
  Do you think I am correct in saying that Safari is used as a last resort? That's it for me anyway for more "daily driver" apps. FB/IM/Reddit/Translation/Maps/Etc I'd never want to use in Safari. If I need to search some definition of a word, some image or whatever I'll use Safari. Not saying it isn't great, I love to have a browser on my phone - I just don't actually like to use it. Just opening Safari now (it wasn't even in my app switcher list) I see a few categories: image searches, movie searches, definitions, "automatically opened via some app" and Facebook (that time when I uninstalled the app for some dev-testing and forgot to install it again).
  - ska 10y ago
    Do you think I am correct in saying that Safari is used as a last resort? I suspect this is just not true.
b2600 10y ago
Mobile Safari is open on every single person's phone. Those apps that you listed are the A-list of what everyone has on their phone. That doesn't trickle down to all the other apps that aren't Facebook or Instagram. Literally no one wants an app for every single site they happen to visit regularly. Hell, I've seen people leave an app and go to the site because some functionality didn't work or didn't exist on the app.

by blkhp19 10y ago

aligajani 10y ago

Why are you using 'college kids' as some metric?

amirmansour 10y ago

> Barely anyone has mobile safari open. I believe you are misinformed about this one. Not only is mobile Safari open, but it's open with a bunch of tabs.

wingerlang 10y ago
Do you think I am correct in saying that Safari is used as a last resort? That's it for me anyway for more "daily driver" apps. FB/IM/Reddit/Translation/Maps/Etc I'd never want to use in Safari. If I need to search some definition of a word, some image or whatever I'll use Safari. Not saying it isn't great, I love to have a browser on my phone - I just don't actually like to use it. Just opening Safari now (it wasn't even in my app switcher list) I see a few categories: image searches, movie searches, definitions, "automatically opened via some app" and Facebook (that time when I uninstalled the app for some dev-testing and forgot to install it again).
- ska 10y ago
  Do you think I am correct in saying that Safari is used as a last resort? I suspect this is just not true.

b2600 10y ago

Mobile Safari is open on every single person's phone. Those apps that you listed are the A-list of what everyone has on their phone. That doesn't trickle down to all the other apps that aren't Facebook or Instagram. Literally no one wants an app for every single site they happen to visit regularly. Hell, I've seen people leave an app and go to the site because some functionality didn't work or didn't exist on the app.