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I'm guessing the downvotes are because nearly everyone on this website accepts the reality of climate change, and your comment doesn't seem that relevant.

partycoder 10y ago
Note that I also added some information about a very specific side effect of global warming, which is less often discussed.
- calgoo 10y ago
  Its already happening in the Russian tundra. http://siberiantimes.com/ecology/casestudy/news/n0681-now-the-proof-permafrost-bubbles-are-leaking-methane-200-times-above-the-norm/ http://siberiantimes.com/ecology/casestudy/news/n0681-now-th...
  - hash-set 10y ago
    "It's already happening"--um, you realize that "it's" been happening on this planet for millions of years, right? The climate changes, all over the world. Before humans, after humans.
    - partycoder 10y ago
      Yes, but it is in our best interest to not accelerate the process, especially before we have figured out how deal with the side-effects. Among the obvious side effect --raise in temperature-- the oceans starts absorbing carbon dioxide and methane becoming more acid, acid enough to for example erode the shells of snails.
    - burkaman 10y ago
      Lots of natural processes are bad for humans. Evolution, extinctions, forest fires, floods, droughts, hurricanes, earthquakes, erosion, etc. All of these things happened before humans, and we still would sometimes like to stop them so that there is no "after humans". We don't need to save the planet, the planet will be fine, we need to save ourselves.
hash-set 10y ago
I don't accept the reality of any science performed in an echo chamber--I've been too close to people doing that research and I know that what motivates them is not ultimate truth. Take that for what you will.
- burkaman 10y ago
  What is your definition of echo chamber? Do you believe in evolution? Evolution is even more of an echo chamber, because there aren't any huge companies that will be ruined if it's true. Also, does an echo chamber necessarily mean something is wrong?

partycoder 10y ago

Note that I also added some information about a very specific side effect of global warming, which is less often discussed.

calgoo 10y ago
Its already happening in the Russian tundra. http://siberiantimes.com/ecology/casestudy/news/n0681-now-the-proof-permafrost-bubbles-are-leaking-methane-200-times-above-the-norm/ http://siberiantimes.com/ecology/casestudy/news/n0681-now-th...
- hash-set 10y ago
  "It's already happening"--um, you realize that "it's" been happening on this planet for millions of years, right? The climate changes, all over the world. Before humans, after humans.
  - partycoder 10y ago
    Yes, but it is in our best interest to not accelerate the process, especially before we have figured out how deal with the side-effects. Among the obvious side effect --raise in temperature-- the oceans starts absorbing carbon dioxide and methane becoming more acid, acid enough to for example erode the shells of snails.
  - burkaman 10y ago
    Lots of natural processes are bad for humans. Evolution, extinctions, forest fires, floods, droughts, hurricanes, earthquakes, erosion, etc. All of these things happened before humans, and we still would sometimes like to stop them so that there is no "after humans". We don't need to save the planet, the planet will be fine, we need to save ourselves.

hash-set 10y ago

I don't accept the reality of any science performed in an echo chamber--I've been too close to people doing that research and I know that what motivates them is not ultimate truth. Take that for what you will.

burkaman 10y ago
What is your definition of echo chamber? Do you believe in evolution? Evolution is even more of an echo chamber, because there aren't any huge companies that will be ruined if it's true. Also, does an echo chamber necessarily mean something is wrong?