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Really... The fact that many of those apps run on Amazon's FireOS version of Android completely disproves your point.

taormina 10y ago
Most of them do not. The use of any of Google Play Services features must be stripped out, in most cases hamstringing or losing functionality. Not to mention that they all then must be uploaded via Amazon's own store, kept up to date, and let's really hope that your interactions don't include upswiping.
- bitmapbrother 10y ago
  And most of them do because they've been modified to work without Google services. As for keeping those Amazon versions up to date - that's not Google's problem. It's the developer's / Amazon's problem.
ocdtrekkie 10y ago
I recommend you check your facts before you open your mouth. Check the version of the Skype app in the Amazon Appstore. Then download that version, try to sign in, and discover it doesn't work anymore at all. :) Because I did all of those things, before I gave up and bought a Windows device. Which isn't open either, but at least is honest about it.
- bitmapbrother 10y ago
  So you're blaming Google for a Microsoft issue in failing to update their Amazon app? Maybe you should check your facts next time.
  - ocdtrekkie 10y ago
    No, the issue is that their current application is now dependent on Google's proprietary infrastructure, because Google has moved away from an open source application platform.
    - jhasse 10y ago
      Skype is relying on proprietary infrastructure anyway?!?
      - ocdtrekkie 10y ago
        I have to use Skype's infrastructure to use Skype. Obviously. That doesn't mean my data should also be transiting Google's infrastructure as well. Especially if I supposedly have an open source phone.
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      - seba_dos1 10y ago
        So? The point is, there is no up to date version of Skype for Android. There is one for Android-based Google Play platform, but none for Android itself. Android lacks apps so badly it's almost unusable. People should stop calling Android open when in fact they mean Google Play platform and do not realize what's really left there when you leave it pure Android.

Most of them do not. The use of any of Google Play Services features must be stripped out, in most cases hamstringing or losing functionality. Not to mention that they all then must be uploaded via Amazon's own store, kept up to date, and let's really hope that your interactions don't include upswiping.

bitmapbrother 10y ago
And most of them do because they've been modified to work without Google services. As for keeping those Amazon versions up to date - that's not Google's problem. It's the developer's / Amazon's problem.

ocdtrekkie 10y ago

I recommend you check your facts before you open your mouth. Check the version of the Skype app in the Amazon Appstore. Then download that version, try to sign in, and discover it doesn't work anymore at all. :) Because I did all of those things, before I gave up and bought a Windows device. Which isn't open either, but at least is honest about it.

bitmapbrother 10y ago
So you're blaming Google for a Microsoft issue in failing to update their Amazon app? Maybe you should check your facts next time.
- ocdtrekkie 10y ago
  No, the issue is that their current application is now dependent on Google's proprietary infrastructure, because Google has moved away from an open source application platform.
  - jhasse 10y ago
    Skype is relying on proprietary infrastructure anyway?!?
    - ocdtrekkie 10y ago
      I have to use Skype's infrastructure to use Skype. Obviously. That doesn't mean my data should also be transiting Google's infrastructure as well. Especially if I supposedly have an open source phone.
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    - seba_dos1 10y ago
      So? The point is, there is no up to date version of Skype for Android. There is one for Android-based Google Play platform, but none for Android itself. Android lacks apps so badly it's almost unusable. People should stop calling Android open when in fact they mean Google Play platform and do not realize what's really left there when you leave it pure Android.