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This is my experience as well. 10 years of smoking analogs lead me to ecigs. Used ecig for 3 years. Went from 18mg to 0 in the last 6 months of me using. Con

by nemacol 10y ago

This is my experience as well. 10 years of smoking analogs lead me to ecigs. Used ecig for 3 years. Went from 18mg to 0 in the last 6 months of me using. Continued using 0 nic for 2 months. Now I am 8 months clean of all nicotine products and 6 months clean of ecigs in general. It was easy because of how gradual it was and that I was still able to satisfy the oral habit of smoking while kicking the chemical dependency. Smoking while driving was a huge hangup. As a side note - if you buy good hardware and good quality liquid, the whole experiene is better than smoking as well. Forget the vape "culture". IMO ecigs are more convenient, taste better, feel better, and so on.

oxide 10y ago
Personally, I didn't want to give up nicotine. I just wanted to give up cigarettes. So that's what I did. I took my carton money for the month and invested in a proper setup after doing my research. I spent time trying different juices until I found one I could use all day, every day. That was 2 years ago. Everyone around me still smokes, but I've never even been tempted to go back. I smoked for 10 years as well.
- nemacol 10y ago
  That is wonderful. Glad you were able to kick the habit. Same with me- my intention was never to stop smoking... it just kind of happened. :D
cptskippy 10y ago
Can you recommend any resources for this? I'd love to encourage some family members in this direction.
- eof 10y ago
  the ecigaratte subreddits are extremely helpful... they seem to have changed since i was using it (similar story to others.. smoked analogs for a decade, after about 2 years on ecigs I am not vaping or taking any nicotine).. this seems to be the best place: https://www.reddit.com/r/Vaping/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Vaping/ you can get a good setup for ~$50 then the heaviest users will spend like $30/month on juice (most users will spend a fraction of that)
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  - rfrank 10y ago
    /r/electronic_cigarette is the primary ecig subreddit. /r/diy_ejuice is a good resource for people interested in making their own eliquid. can't access the spreadsheet i made at the moment to check, but i pay somewhere in the order of a dollar worth of ingredients for 30ml of juice.
    - SOLAR_FIELDS 10y ago
      The mark up for juice at most vape stores is obscene, yet still manages to be cheaper than regular cigarettes. $15 for 30 mL at my local store, that lasts me on average 15 days. So it's still roughly half the price for a half pack a day smoker and 1/4 of the price for a pack a day smoker (assuming a very generous $5 a pack). If you mix your own juice you're approaching savings that are better on an order of magnitude.
      - rfrank 10y ago
        it's crazy how expensive some juices are, especially when a lot are pretty simple flavor profiles with lots of sweeteners and colorings added in. once i found some diy recipes that i enjoyed, i made a pair of 120ml, and the cost savings from those two bottles alone covered all the ingredients and equipment (beakers, stirring rods, scale, bottles, etc). diy is especially worthwhile if your device guzzles juice like my geekvape griffin tank does. diy or die on youtube is a great resource, here's one of the recipes i make regularly: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlI8CvT8SCA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlI8CvT8SCA
        oxide 10y ago
        I'm a cheap bastard, so I just buy Chinese liquid. 50ml for 11 bucks. If you're buying domestic juice you pay a premium for nothing special, from what I can tell. Also, the chances of it being made in a proper factory are basically nil. It's often someone else's DIY garage juice at a 10000% markup.
- nemacol 10y ago
  My setup was... Sigelei 50W Watt Box Mod Kanger-subtank with OCC Vertical coil. 0.5 ohm liquids: Ultimate Kringle (every day juice) Castle Long (every now and then) As others have replied and as might know, the world of ecigs is rather large, poorly detailed (mostly), and can be expensive to start. That equipment worked really well for me at the time. But the "go to" gear may be different by now - I would stress that you research before you buy. I have learned everything i know about ecigs from friends, ecigforums, youtube rewviews, and buying a lot of crappy equipment. best of luck.
tome 10y ago
> Went from 18mg to 0 in the last 6 months of me using. Continued using 0 nic for 2 months. Now I am 8 months clean of all nicotine products and 6 months clean of ecigs in general. Congratulations! But being a non-smoker, I don't understand. Can you explain why you couldn't have cut down on nicotine by just smoking fewer cigarettes per day?
- NinjaViking 10y ago
  Because cigarettes deliver nicotine very, very fast, giving an instant and pleasant rush. After an hour or so the nicotine level in your blood has fallen quite a lot and you'll be craving another one. E-cig nicotine delivery happens slower and you avoid both the highs and the crashing lows. That makes it a lot easier to cut down to insignificant amounts of nicotine over a few months.
  - jdietrich 10y ago
    Tobacco smoke also contains monoamine oxidase inhibiting compounds, which are believed to drastically increase the addictive potential of nicotine. Rats are largely indifferent to nicotine alone, but will compulsively self-administer nicotine in combination with an MAOI. http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0024320506004619 http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0024320506... http://jneurosci.org/content/25/38/8593.long http://jneurosci.org/content/25/38/8593.long http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0091305703002235 http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0091305703... Cigarettes do give a more immediate and intense nicotine 'hit'. Ammonia compounds are added to cigarette tobacco, which increase the proportion of freebase nicotine to nicotine salts. Cigarettes are, in a very literal sense, the crack cocaine of nicotine delivery. http://www.ash.org.uk/files/documents/ASH_623.pdf http://www.ash.org.uk/files/documents/ASH_623.pdf
  - facetube 10y ago
    In a lot of drugs, euphoria is at least partially proportional to the rate of blood level increase, e.g. [1]. [1] http://www.dddmag.com/article/2009/07/question-opioid-euphoria http://www.dddmag.com/article/2009/07/question-opioid-euphor...
excalibur 10y ago
Same story here. Smoker for 20 years, been vaping for 2. Started at 18 mg, went to 12, then 9 (made this myself by mixing equal parts 12 and 6). Currently at 6 mg. Already have large quantities of 3 mg and 0 mg juice purchased. When my supply of one strength runs out, I move on to a lower one. I always make a point of sticking at each level for at least 2-3 months. This way I can be sure I've grown fully accustomed to one step before taking the next. In my view, reducing the nicotine content too quickly would increase chances of a relapse.
- SOLAR_FIELDS 10y ago
  I noticed the same - I tried to jump too quickly from 18 to 12 to 6 to 3, once I hit 3 I started smoking again. It's a nice way to wean yourself off and gives you a ton of options for flavor, ingestion, and strength

by nemacol 10y ago

oxide 10y ago

Personally, I didn't want to give up nicotine. I just wanted to give up cigarettes. So that's what I did. I took my carton money for the month and invested in a proper setup after doing my research. I spent time trying different juices until I found one I could use all day, every day. That was 2 years ago. Everyone around me still smokes, but I've never even been tempted to go back. I smoked for 10 years as well.

nemacol 10y ago
That is wonderful. Glad you were able to kick the habit. Same with me- my intention was never to stop smoking... it just kind of happened. :D

cptskippy 10y ago

Can you recommend any resources for this? I'd love to encourage some family members in this direction.

eof 10y ago
the ecigaratte subreddits are extremely helpful... they seem to have changed since i was using it (similar story to others.. smoked analogs for a decade, after about 2 years on ecigs I am not vaping or taking any nicotine).. this seems to be the best place: https://www.reddit.com/r/Vaping/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Vaping/ you can get a good setup for ~$50 then the heaviest users will spend like $30/month on juice (most users will spend a fraction of that)
- deleted 10y ago
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- rfrank 10y ago
  /r/electronic_cigarette is the primary ecig subreddit. /r/diy_ejuice is a good resource for people interested in making their own eliquid. can't access the spreadsheet i made at the moment to check, but i pay somewhere in the order of a dollar worth of ingredients for 30ml of juice.
  - SOLAR_FIELDS 10y ago
    The mark up for juice at most vape stores is obscene, yet still manages to be cheaper than regular cigarettes. $15 for 30 mL at my local store, that lasts me on average 15 days. So it's still roughly half the price for a half pack a day smoker and 1/4 of the price for a pack a day smoker (assuming a very generous $5 a pack). If you mix your own juice you're approaching savings that are better on an order of magnitude.
    - rfrank 10y ago
      it's crazy how expensive some juices are, especially when a lot are pretty simple flavor profiles with lots of sweeteners and colorings added in. once i found some diy recipes that i enjoyed, i made a pair of 120ml, and the cost savings from those two bottles alone covered all the ingredients and equipment (beakers, stirring rods, scale, bottles, etc). diy is especially worthwhile if your device guzzles juice like my geekvape griffin tank does. diy or die on youtube is a great resource, here's one of the recipes i make regularly: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlI8CvT8SCA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlI8CvT8SCA
      - oxide 10y ago
        I'm a cheap bastard, so I just buy Chinese liquid. 50ml for 11 bucks. If you're buying domestic juice you pay a premium for nothing special, from what I can tell. Also, the chances of it being made in a proper factory are basically nil. It's often someone else's DIY garage juice at a 10000% markup.
nemacol 10y ago
My setup was... Sigelei 50W Watt Box Mod Kanger-subtank with OCC Vertical coil. 0.5 ohm liquids: Ultimate Kringle (every day juice) Castle Long (every now and then) As others have replied and as might know, the world of ecigs is rather large, poorly detailed (mostly), and can be expensive to start. That equipment worked really well for me at the time. But the "go to" gear may be different by now - I would stress that you research before you buy. I have learned everything i know about ecigs from friends, ecigforums, youtube rewviews, and buying a lot of crappy equipment. best of luck.

tome 10y ago

> Went from 18mg to 0 in the last 6 months of me using. Continued using 0 nic for 2 months. Now I am 8 months clean of all nicotine products and 6 months clean of ecigs in general. Congratulations! But being a non-smoker, I don't understand. Can you explain why you couldn't have cut down on nicotine by just smoking fewer cigarettes per day?

NinjaViking 10y ago
Because cigarettes deliver nicotine very, very fast, giving an instant and pleasant rush. After an hour or so the nicotine level in your blood has fallen quite a lot and you'll be craving another one. E-cig nicotine delivery happens slower and you avoid both the highs and the crashing lows. That makes it a lot easier to cut down to insignificant amounts of nicotine over a few months.
- jdietrich 10y ago
  Tobacco smoke also contains monoamine oxidase inhibiting compounds, which are believed to drastically increase the addictive potential of nicotine. Rats are largely indifferent to nicotine alone, but will compulsively self-administer nicotine in combination with an MAOI. http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0024320506004619 http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0024320506... http://jneurosci.org/content/25/38/8593.long http://jneurosci.org/content/25/38/8593.long http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0091305703002235 http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0091305703... Cigarettes do give a more immediate and intense nicotine 'hit'. Ammonia compounds are added to cigarette tobacco, which increase the proportion of freebase nicotine to nicotine salts. Cigarettes are, in a very literal sense, the crack cocaine of nicotine delivery. http://www.ash.org.uk/files/documents/ASH_623.pdf http://www.ash.org.uk/files/documents/ASH_623.pdf
- facetube 10y ago
  In a lot of drugs, euphoria is at least partially proportional to the rate of blood level increase, e.g. [1]. [1] http://www.dddmag.com/article/2009/07/question-opioid-euphoria http://www.dddmag.com/article/2009/07/question-opioid-euphor...

excalibur 10y ago

Same story here. Smoker for 20 years, been vaping for 2. Started at 18 mg, went to 12, then 9 (made this myself by mixing equal parts 12 and 6). Currently at 6 mg. Already have large quantities of 3 mg and 0 mg juice purchased. When my supply of one strength runs out, I move on to a lower one. I always make a point of sticking at each level for at least 2-3 months. This way I can be sure I've grown fully accustomed to one step before taking the next. In my view, reducing the nicotine content too quickly would increase chances of a relapse.

SOLAR_FIELDS 10y ago
I noticed the same - I tried to jump too quickly from 18 to 12 to 6 to 3, once I hit 3 I started smoking again. It's a nice way to wean yourself off and gives you a ton of options for flavor, ingestion, and strength