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People voted in general elections for many different reasons. People voting for a pro-EU party didn't necessarily support the EU. And all those elections took p

by ldjb 10y ago

People voted in general elections for many different reasons. People voting for a pro-EU party didn't necessarily support the EU. And all those elections took place under a flawed first-past-the-post system.

throwaway-hn123 10y ago
I mean, if you want to keep moving the goalposts as your arguments are rebutted, that's fine. It just makes you not appear to be acting in good faith.
- ldjb 10y ago
  I don't see how I'm moving the goalposts. All I'm saying is that the EU referendum result must be respected. General election results must also be respected, but they revolve around a number of issues, so are not a good indicator of voters' opinion of membership of the EU. Besides, the Conservatives were elected into government with a manifesto promising an in-out referendum. The government has delivered on that promise and is carrying out the will of the people, as decided in that referendum.
  - throwaway-hn123 10y ago
    > All I'm saying is that the EU referendum result must be respected. It is being respected. This might be news to you, but we don't live in a fascist dictatorship where dissent is forbidden. So, in your view, not a single thing any government has done (with the exception of joining the Common Market) has been agreed to by the population. Interesting.
    - ldjb 10y ago
      Things such as the NHS, the minimum wage and same-sex marriage are things governments have achieved with overwhelming support from the people. But it's true that the people didn't have a direct say on these things. I don't see it as a problem though because, unlike the EU, the majority of people are perfectly happy with these things.
      - throwaway-hn123 10y ago
        Nice assertions. I think this would be a good time for you to step back and examine the profound contradictions in your thought processes. And remember, in your future, no dissent is allowed.

by ldjb 10y ago

throwaway-hn123 10y ago

I mean, if you want to keep moving the goalposts as your arguments are rebutted, that's fine. It just makes you not appear to be acting in good faith.

ldjb 10y ago
I don't see how I'm moving the goalposts. All I'm saying is that the EU referendum result must be respected. General election results must also be respected, but they revolve around a number of issues, so are not a good indicator of voters' opinion of membership of the EU. Besides, the Conservatives were elected into government with a manifesto promising an in-out referendum. The government has delivered on that promise and is carrying out the will of the people, as decided in that referendum.
- throwaway-hn123 10y ago
  > All I'm saying is that the EU referendum result must be respected. It is being respected. This might be news to you, but we don't live in a fascist dictatorship where dissent is forbidden. So, in your view, not a single thing any government has done (with the exception of joining the Common Market) has been agreed to by the population. Interesting.
  - ldjb 10y ago
    Things such as the NHS, the minimum wage and same-sex marriage are things governments have achieved with overwhelming support from the people. But it's true that the people didn't have a direct say on these things. I don't see it as a problem though because, unlike the EU, the majority of people are perfectly happy with these things.
    - throwaway-hn123 10y ago
      Nice assertions. I think this would be a good time for you to step back and examine the profound contradictions in your thought processes. And remember, in your future, no dissent is allowed.