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There can't be any leave plan because the EU refused to ever even discuss the possibility, as did unfortunately large chunks of the British civil service. Their

There can't be any leave plan because the EU refused to ever even discuss the possibility, as did unfortunately large chunks of the British civil service. Their primary strategy, since more or less forever, has been to resolutely insist that the EU is irreversible and forever and reducing its power is utterly unthinkable. Given that both governments refused to contemplate the possibility, how much of a plan did you expect there to be? Planning for the outcome of referendums is the governments job!

pavlov 10y ago
Who are you blaming exactly when you say that "EU refused"? What should this other party have done -- written a Leave plan when the UK government wouldn't do it? The referendum was a matter between the UK electorate and their government. Other EU states played no part in that. The Treaty of Lisbon specifically offers a way for a member state to withdraw in the timespan of two years. Not sure how you read that as "irreversible".
- zigzigzag 10y ago
  The EU should absolutely have been willing to talk about it, yes! Article 50 was only put there because the British insisted on it. Read what the guy who wrote it thinks: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-eu-referendum-britain-theresa-may-article-50-not-supposed-meant-to-be-used-trigger-giuliano-a7156656.html http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-eu-refe...
  - pavlov 10y ago
    The EU (minus Britain) is over 440 million people. Who should have been willing to talk? About what? Cameron did negotiate with EU leaders and tried to get concessions (on top of the existing special treatment that Thatcher and others negotiated over the years). Isn't that "talking"? Why didn't the UK government make a plan for the Leave option after those negotiations were concluded? The lack of clarity around Leave is really not the fault of anyone except the UK government. Blaming it on other states is just avoiding responsibility.

pavlov 10y ago

Who are you blaming exactly when you say that "EU refused"? What should this other party have done -- written a Leave plan when the UK government wouldn't do it? The referendum was a matter between the UK electorate and their government. Other EU states played no part in that. The Treaty of Lisbon specifically offers a way for a member state to withdraw in the timespan of two years. Not sure how you read that as "irreversible".

zigzigzag 10y ago
The EU should absolutely have been willing to talk about it, yes! Article 50 was only put there because the British insisted on it. Read what the guy who wrote it thinks: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-eu-referendum-britain-theresa-may-article-50-not-supposed-meant-to-be-used-trigger-giuliano-a7156656.html http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-eu-refe...
- pavlov 10y ago
  The EU (minus Britain) is over 440 million people. Who should have been willing to talk? About what? Cameron did negotiate with EU leaders and tried to get concessions (on top of the existing special treatment that Thatcher and others negotiated over the years). Isn't that "talking"? Why didn't the UK government make a plan for the Leave option after those negotiations were concluded? The lack of clarity around Leave is really not the fault of anyone except the UK government. Blaming it on other states is just avoiding responsibility.