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No and here is your mistake, sorry I have to call you an idiot because you triggered me. Someone that inherits property doesn't automatically mean that he/she

by muse900 10y ago

No and here is your mistake, sorry I have to call you an idiot because you triggered me. Someone that inherits property doesn't automatically mean that he/she is rich. They never rented out or sold any property, and they worked for private companies their whole lives. The money they had were pretty limited on what they could do. Also property in Greece is not like other countries of EU. Atm you can find flats in central Athens for 20k euros... Go buy 10 flats and then say you are rich because you own property valued at 200k. So yes your argument is pretty stupid, you just want to blow off steam for some reason I am guessing you are a German.

return0 10y ago
I m a greek idiot who doesnt own any houses. If i owned 4 i would certainly not consider myself middle-class.
- muse900 10y ago
  house != flat, but how would you know. If someone that owns 3 flats and 1 house is considered rich then all good I am rich, why am I even working for? damn, why my parents can't pay their electricity(tax) bills and have to make arrangements with the government to pay in installments, noone knows, we are just rich, I'll go get my private jet and fly off this comment section now.
- YeGoblynQueenne 10y ago
  Yeah, this is typical. I know this lady who owns one house in Plaka [1] right under the Acropolis, another in Kifissia [1] and lives in a house in the Liston [1], in Corfu (think Plaka, but on an Ionian Island). She never stops complaining about ENFIA [2] and how unfair it is that she has to pay property tax. Well I don't have to pay any tax at all. Because I don't own anything. Sometimes it's just very hard to sympathise with people who are several times as wealthy as I am, and who complain because they will now have to pay taxes for it. Because let's not forget that the devaluing of properties is a very recent thing. Until now having a couple of properties meant a steady stream of income- which most people would probably not have paid any tax on... because they dodged it. Which contributed to the dire situation we are in right now. And in particular caused the current government to resort to the harsh measures that are being imposed. No, really- I don't want to see anyone punished, or having their properties repossessed, that's truly awful. But I can't really find it within me to feel, you know- compassionate. ________________ [1] To non-Greek readers: all those are very posh, very expensive districts in Athens or Corfu, the latter being one of the more well-off (and therefore, expensive) islands in the Ionian sea, the more upmarket set of Greek islands. [2] A newly introduced property tax.
charlesdm 10y ago
> Someone that inherits property doesn't automatically mean that he/she is rich. That depends on the value though. They could be asset rich, and (very) cash poor. That's a tough spot to be in. Arguably, that could even be worse if you can't sell them. But you said the apts are currently worth around €300k each? Is there no way to unlock cash from them, e.g. by renting them out at €1,000 a month or by taking out a €100,000 bank loan against them? Alternatively, how about AirBnb? I know a guy making good money with a small business renting out several AirBnb apts in a popular city. That way you would at least not have to sell them.

by muse900 10y ago

return0 10y ago

I m a greek idiot who doesnt own any houses. If i owned 4 i would certainly not consider myself middle-class.

muse900 10y ago
house != flat, but how would you know. If someone that owns 3 flats and 1 house is considered rich then all good I am rich, why am I even working for? damn, why my parents can't pay their electricity(tax) bills and have to make arrangements with the government to pay in installments, noone knows, we are just rich, I'll go get my private jet and fly off this comment section now.
YeGoblynQueenne 10y ago
Yeah, this is typical. I know this lady who owns one house in Plaka [1] right under the Acropolis, another in Kifissia [1] and lives in a house in the Liston [1], in Corfu (think Plaka, but on an Ionian Island). She never stops complaining about ENFIA [2] and how unfair it is that she has to pay property tax. Well I don't have to pay any tax at all. Because I don't own anything. Sometimes it's just very hard to sympathise with people who are several times as wealthy as I am, and who complain because they will now have to pay taxes for it. Because let's not forget that the devaluing of properties is a very recent thing. Until now having a couple of properties meant a steady stream of income- which most people would probably not have paid any tax on... because they dodged it. Which contributed to the dire situation we are in right now. And in particular caused the current government to resort to the harsh measures that are being imposed. No, really- I don't want to see anyone punished, or having their properties repossessed, that's truly awful. But I can't really find it within me to feel, you know- compassionate. ________________ [1] To non-Greek readers: all those are very posh, very expensive districts in Athens or Corfu, the latter being one of the more well-off (and therefore, expensive) islands in the Ionian sea, the more upmarket set of Greek islands. [2] A newly introduced property tax.

charlesdm 10y ago

> Someone that inherits property doesn't automatically mean that he/she is rich. That depends on the value though. They could be asset rich, and (very) cash poor. That's a tough spot to be in. Arguably, that could even be worse if you can't sell them. But you said the apts are currently worth around €300k each? Is there no way to unlock cash from them, e.g. by renting them out at €1,000 a month or by taking out a €100,000 bank loan against them? Alternatively, how about AirBnb? I know a guy making good money with a small business renting out several AirBnb apts in a popular city. That way you would at least not have to sell them.