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You are not alone, I have two good friends that still have theirs too, and nothing will ever be good enough for them again. That phone spoiled them, and is the

You are not alone, I have two good friends that still have theirs too, and nothing will ever be good enough for them again. That phone spoiled them, and is the direction they wish phones went. Alas, they have gone the way of the masses instead, but you know if someone like a OnePlus came out with a modern powered phone, with a big battery (phone size doesn't matter to us), a physical keyboard, dual sim, expandable memory and an open source OS, there would be DOZENS of us that would snap it up. Dozens!

imjustsaying 10y ago
Maddox would enjoy a reboot, too. http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=iphone http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=iphone
- bitJericho 10y ago
  The most objective comparison of two cellphones ever made.
- digi_owl 10y ago
  Huh, i completely missed that Nokia made a Symbian variant of their split keyboard design. I recall a relative of mine owned one of the featurephone models. Things like this is what makes me feel that the mobile market came to a screeching halt somewhere around 2007, and has barely been picking up speed since.
- cure 10y ago
  Owwww, the E70! I loved that phone. Still have mine.
  - deleted 10y ago
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  - Gruselbauer 10y ago
    I loved Nokia's smartphones so much. E70, E61, N900... Those were the pinnacles of smartphoning for me. Their successors somehow manage to fall short in vital aspects every single time, it's beyond frustrating.
    - digi_owl 10y ago
      Best i can tell its because back then smartphones were for productivity first and foremost. These days they are for media consumption.
qwertyuiop924 10y ago
Have you looked into sailfish? No physical keyboard, AFAICT, but it's based on the successor to Maemo. Also, look into the neo900 project and Pyra. Neo900 is trying to upgrade the n900, and Pyra is the successor to Pandora, which is a pocket computer in a semi-similar vein to the old nokias. Neither is finished, but they're worth a look.
- lphnull 10y ago
  I've heard of sailfish before, but I had NO idea sailfish is somewhat maemo based. This really makes me want to reconsider the Jolla phone.
  - qwertyuiop924 10y ago
    Sailfish is based on Meego, which was a merge of Maemo and another project. It was the OS that backed the N9, the last phone Nokia made before they went to MS.
    - ZenoArrow 10y ago
      > "and another project" The other project was called Moblin. It was an Intel project. It's a shame the N950 never got a proper release. The N9 got praised highly on release, but the N950 would've been the true successor to the N900.
  - Nition 10y ago
    Jolla was formed by devs that left Nokia after they abandoned Meego. I had an N9 and currently have the Jolla phone with Sailfish. They're very similar.
  - skykooler 10y ago
    Keep in mind, if you live in the US, that the Jolla is an EU phone, and doesn't support US 3G or 4G frequencies. I was stuck with a Jolla on 2G for a while. Recently I got a OnePlus X and installed Sailfish OS on that, and the experience has been much better.
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lphnull 10y ago
>nothing will ever be good enough for them again. Reading this made me so sad. This is exactly how I feel. Nothing will ever be good enough again. :(
- amiga-workbench 10y ago
  I would kill for a Nokia N950. A proper keyboard, and a true Linux operating system with the usual userspace software you would expect.
  - diggernet 10y ago
    Or maybe $2995?
  - maxerickson 10y ago
    Would you pay $3000?
  - lphnull 10y ago
    My raspberry pi 3, encased in a rainbow colored 3d printed case and with a 3.5" touch screen, is what took the place of my n900. It's a fraction of the cost of an n900, but with a standard rpi linux distribution and modern specs. Sure I can't make calls with my pi, but the sacrifice is well worth it for the nerd appeal of having a fully functional computer in your pcoket.
    - Gruselbauer 10y ago
      Got some kind of build recipe for that? A mobile ssh station that doesn't suck would be worth my enternal soul to me. Or two of those!
      - lphnull 10y ago
        I like xubuntu because it's minimalistic and not as bloated. It doesn't take a lot of effort to set up your favorite packages like a lamp server and the like after a basic install. My cheap touch screen is a little laggy, but when plugged into an HDMI monitor, the OS is as fast as a desktop computer. Be sure to buy the latest rpi though, because the original rpi1 is kind of slow and disappointing compared to the latest one with much nicer specs. With an external high-capacity battery and a USB wireless keyboard, it can even function as a laptop replacement if you're okay with using linux as your main OS.
biafra 10y ago
Did you hear about the neo900? Would that be an option for you?
- skykooler 10y ago
  The Neo900 would have been excellent had it come out two years ago, as originally planned. However, the various delays keep pushing it back, although it still has the same hardware. It will end up quite underpowered like the N900 is now, combined with an older chipset that doesn't support things newer open phone OS's require (like Wayland).
Gruselbauer 10y ago
Same here. Obviously you're 100% right in how little of a target demographic we are, but I'll never forget the sheer joy of finally saving up the money for the n900 and getting it. As mentioned, it'd be a usable device on its own to this day. If newspaper sites hadn't become unusable without an adblocker, if I didn't need browser updates every nanosecond and if the latest memory-hogging web trend language wasn't, well, what it was. I'd still use it. Now I own two mobile devices. A BlackBerry Passport. Great UI, physical keyboard, indestructible. Dead software ecosystem, horribly closed source, last of its kind and while there's a lot to love It's not hard to see why. Then there's a rooted HTC phone. Great choice of software (termux alone makes up for so much). Hate hate hate ssh'ing with a touchscreen. Typing generally. Terrible battery life. Seems like it'll die from one harsh drop. If my social life would not force mobile messengers on me, I'd have gone back to 20€ dumbphones and text/voice only. Though I bet even those come with a horrible browser and the accompanying remotely exploitable holes now. All in all? Wonderful project. I'm very much hoping for a third player in the mobile game.

imjustsaying 10y ago

Maddox would enjoy a reboot, too. http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=iphone http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=iphone

bitJericho 10y ago
The most objective comparison of two cellphones ever made.
digi_owl 10y ago
Huh, i completely missed that Nokia made a Symbian variant of their split keyboard design. I recall a relative of mine owned one of the featurephone models. Things like this is what makes me feel that the mobile market came to a screeching halt somewhere around 2007, and has barely been picking up speed since.
cure 10y ago
Owwww, the E70! I loved that phone. Still have mine.
- deleted 10y ago
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- Gruselbauer 10y ago
  I loved Nokia's smartphones so much. E70, E61, N900... Those were the pinnacles of smartphoning for me. Their successors somehow manage to fall short in vital aspects every single time, it's beyond frustrating.
  - digi_owl 10y ago
    Best i can tell its because back then smartphones were for productivity first and foremost. These days they are for media consumption.

qwertyuiop924 10y ago

Have you looked into sailfish? No physical keyboard, AFAICT, but it's based on the successor to Maemo. Also, look into the neo900 project and Pyra. Neo900 is trying to upgrade the n900, and Pyra is the successor to Pandora, which is a pocket computer in a semi-similar vein to the old nokias. Neither is finished, but they're worth a look.

lphnull 10y ago
I've heard of sailfish before, but I had NO idea sailfish is somewhat maemo based. This really makes me want to reconsider the Jolla phone.
- qwertyuiop924 10y ago
  Sailfish is based on Meego, which was a merge of Maemo and another project. It was the OS that backed the N9, the last phone Nokia made before they went to MS.
  - ZenoArrow 10y ago
    > "and another project" The other project was called Moblin. It was an Intel project. It's a shame the N950 never got a proper release. The N9 got praised highly on release, but the N950 would've been the true successor to the N900.
- Nition 10y ago
  Jolla was formed by devs that left Nokia after they abandoned Meego. I had an N9 and currently have the Jolla phone with Sailfish. They're very similar.
- skykooler 10y ago
  Keep in mind, if you live in the US, that the Jolla is an EU phone, and doesn't support US 3G or 4G frequencies. I was stuck with a Jolla on 2G for a while. Recently I got a OnePlus X and installed Sailfish OS on that, and the experience has been much better.
10y ago

lphnull 10y ago

>nothing will ever be good enough for them again. Reading this made me so sad. This is exactly how I feel. Nothing will ever be good enough again. :(

amiga-workbench 10y ago
I would kill for a Nokia N950. A proper keyboard, and a true Linux operating system with the usual userspace software you would expect.
- diggernet 10y ago
  Or maybe $2995?
- maxerickson 10y ago
  Would you pay $3000?
- lphnull 10y ago
  My raspberry pi 3, encased in a rainbow colored 3d printed case and with a 3.5" touch screen, is what took the place of my n900. It's a fraction of the cost of an n900, but with a standard rpi linux distribution and modern specs. Sure I can't make calls with my pi, but the sacrifice is well worth it for the nerd appeal of having a fully functional computer in your pcoket.
  - Gruselbauer 10y ago
    Got some kind of build recipe for that? A mobile ssh station that doesn't suck would be worth my enternal soul to me. Or two of those!
    - lphnull 10y ago
      I like xubuntu because it's minimalistic and not as bloated. It doesn't take a lot of effort to set up your favorite packages like a lamp server and the like after a basic install. My cheap touch screen is a little laggy, but when plugged into an HDMI monitor, the OS is as fast as a desktop computer. Be sure to buy the latest rpi though, because the original rpi1 is kind of slow and disappointing compared to the latest one with much nicer specs. With an external high-capacity battery and a USB wireless keyboard, it can even function as a laptop replacement if you're okay with using linux as your main OS.

biafra 10y ago

Did you hear about the neo900? Would that be an option for you?

skykooler 10y ago
The Neo900 would have been excellent had it come out two years ago, as originally planned. However, the various delays keep pushing it back, although it still has the same hardware. It will end up quite underpowered like the N900 is now, combined with an older chipset that doesn't support things newer open phone OS's require (like Wayland).

Gruselbauer 10y ago

Same here. Obviously you're 100% right in how little of a target demographic we are, but I'll never forget the sheer joy of finally saving up the money for the n900 and getting it. As mentioned, it'd be a usable device on its own to this day. If newspaper sites hadn't become unusable without an adblocker, if I didn't need browser updates every nanosecond and if the latest memory-hogging web trend language wasn't, well, what it was. I'd still use it. Now I own two mobile devices. A BlackBerry Passport. Great UI, physical keyboard, indestructible. Dead software ecosystem, horribly closed source, last of its kind and while there's a lot to love It's not hard to see why. Then there's a rooted HTC phone. Great choice of software (termux alone makes up for so much). Hate hate hate ssh'ing with a touchscreen. Typing generally. Terrible battery life. Seems like it'll die from one harsh drop. If my social life would not force mobile messengers on me, I'd have gone back to 20€ dumbphones and text/voice only. Though I bet even those come with a horrible browser and the accompanying remotely exploitable holes now. All in all? Wonderful project. I'm very much hoping for a third player in the mobile game.