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Have fun editing HDR footage or cutting samples on the command line. Don't get me wrong, but MacOS is exactly my platform of choice because I can have a sane PO

Have fun editing HDR footage or cutting samples on the command line. Don't get me wrong, but MacOS is exactly my platform of choice because I can have a sane POSIX command line as well as a color managed display and high resolution, low latency multichannel audio on the very same computer and can switch effortlessly.

swiley 10y ago
You're actually manipulating graphical data though, in that situation a GUI makes a lot of sense. Using a GUI for editing E-mail or joining a WI-FI network is silly, just like it is for most things people do with computers.
- Latty 10y ago
  No, it's not. GUIs give amazingly good discovery, when compared to CLIs. Most people use computers as simple tools. They want it to be easy to figure out how to do what they want, not to have to look it up or work it out. CLIs are great for power users, but they suck for casual users - and "most things people do with computers" are casual usage.
- city41 10y ago
  Are you truly managing email through a command line interface? Or are you using something like Pine? Isn't Pine just a GUI created out of characters instead of graphics? True GUI interfaces compared to ncurses type solutions offer way more fidelity and power.
  - hibbelig 10y ago
    nmh FTW!
- stevetrewick 10y ago
  >Using a GUI for editing E-mail or joining a WI-FI network is silly, just like it is for most things people do with computers. Englebart? Sutherland? Kay? Idiots! Fifty years of academic and industrial research into Human Computer Interaction? Arrant nonsense. Let's blow it all off and do your thing. What could possibly go wrong? [0] [0] http://gandre.ws/blog/blog/2015/04/07/why-the-command-line-is-not-usable/ http://gandre.ws/blog/blog/2015/04/07/why-the-command-line-i...
  - mark_kalvelage 10y ago
    I think one of the big reasons that many dev tools are command line programs is that command line interfaces are just easier to code, even if you are writing all the parsing logic from scratch. You don't have to worry about designing a layout, hooking logic up across a UI thread, wrestling with a widget library, etc.
    - pjmlp 10y ago
      On UNIX, the Windows, macOS culture is to provide GUIs for developer tools even if they might look a bit ugly.

swiley 10y ago

You're actually manipulating graphical data though, in that situation a GUI makes a lot of sense. Using a GUI for editing E-mail or joining a WI-FI network is silly, just like it is for most things people do with computers.

Latty 10y ago
No, it's not. GUIs give amazingly good discovery, when compared to CLIs. Most people use computers as simple tools. They want it to be easy to figure out how to do what they want, not to have to look it up or work it out. CLIs are great for power users, but they suck for casual users - and "most things people do with computers" are casual usage.
city41 10y ago
Are you truly managing email through a command line interface? Or are you using something like Pine? Isn't Pine just a GUI created out of characters instead of graphics? True GUI interfaces compared to ncurses type solutions offer way more fidelity and power.
- hibbelig 10y ago
  nmh FTW!
stevetrewick 10y ago
>Using a GUI for editing E-mail or joining a WI-FI network is silly, just like it is for most things people do with computers. Englebart? Sutherland? Kay? Idiots! Fifty years of academic and industrial research into Human Computer Interaction? Arrant nonsense. Let's blow it all off and do your thing. What could possibly go wrong? [0] [0] http://gandre.ws/blog/blog/2015/04/07/why-the-command-line-is-not-usable/ http://gandre.ws/blog/blog/2015/04/07/why-the-command-line-i...
- mark_kalvelage 10y ago
  I think one of the big reasons that many dev tools are command line programs is that command line interfaces are just easier to code, even if you are writing all the parsing logic from scratch. You don't have to worry about designing a layout, hooking logic up across a UI thread, wrestling with a widget library, etc.
  - pjmlp 10y ago
    On UNIX, the Windows, macOS culture is to provide GUIs for developer tools even if they might look a bit ugly.