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It just sounds like a casual small software business or something else that is startup-y, minus the casual copyright infringement

• digi_owl 10y ago
  Yeah i think all that red tape comes from appeasing the stock market, government agencies, and insurance companies. Do not have the proper paper trail when shit hits the fan? Well there goes your share value, you get a hefty fine from government oversight, and the premium just went through the roof.
  • dingaling 10y ago
    Precisely; in industries where a company can be fined megabucks per day, or be shut-down entirely, for non-compliance those layers of approval and review are unfortunately necessary. Though of course some of them are just jobsworthing by middle managers. How do porn companies continue to handle credit card payments without complying with PCI standards and processes?
    • bcoates 10y ago
      In my experience the overwhelming majority of process introduced in the name of PCI compliance are not actually required by any of the documentation. Whether you can find an auditor that will let you get away with merely following the rules is another matter.
    • narrowrail 10y ago
      I don't have pr0n industry experience, but I worked for the largest merchant acquirer (MA) (the orgs that allow merchants to accept CCs) in the U.S. The merchant acquirer ecosystem has a pyramid structure where many Independent Sales Organizations (ISOs) service specific industries while re-selling CC acceptance from ~6 companies (~80%+ market share). These pr0n companies pay monthly rates that correspond with their chargeback numbers, etc and do not deal directly with the MAs.
    • samsonradu 10y ago
      We don't handle the payments ourselves, they re all handled by high-risk merchants so we don't need to worry about being PCI compliant. Fees are bigger than the usual merchant ones though, lots of fraud and chargebacks.
    • cerrelio 10y ago
      Big porn companies are very serious about PCI compliance. They also closely monitor their fraud numbers. If a MID (merchant ID) goes above 5% (volume or cash amount) fraud, the processor could get fined by Visa/MasterCard/etc ($50k+) and lose the right to accept credit card payments for that particular payment network. Processors who handle porn (high-risk) accounts will often have a general, shared account they'll let you use, because they can take measures to average down and hide the fraud. However, they charge you a premium to use that general account, so you're better off using your own if you have other measures to control fraud. My former company solved this problem by simply acquiring a payment processor company. They had total control over their processing that way. As a bonus, they had access to other porn vendors' account activities, since it was one of the 4-5 major high-risk processors used by porn companies. It was a win-win for them.
      • nickpsecurity 10y ago
        re acquisition of their and competition's processor They just keep getting more clever, devious, and entertaining, don't they? Shit, I'd do my own Braintree for my porn company with the company's positive gains from legit customers covering the losses from the others. Who cares if my bottom line at my main company was good. Success of processor could even pay for better fraud management. Of course, already having enough cash to buy an established one is always nice. :)
  • devonkim 10y ago
    There's a great deal more than just regulations. I'd argue that for one line item of regulation in most poorly organized enterprises (most) you will get at least 10 jobs of bureaucracy to help track it not because of the regulation but because the culture of most companies is about disempowering employees from making decisions as much as possible. This is why the cultural definition of "devops" invoking Deming and empowering workers to make decisions closer to the problem site to me is literally against the existing company culture of Taylorism and sales where managers are worshipped for decision making. Nobody really fined Target for its data breaches - pretty sure that PCI audits had passed repeatedly, in fact. Their stock easily recovered as well. So why are big companies so worried about security? Because breaches are a drag upon everyone and slows down features and improvements. I'm familiar with environments where change freezes are enacted for months after every critical outage, and nobody's regulations say to do anything like that. That's purely a belief in the false equivalency that stability and development velocity are antitheses. Gosh, someone tell Google and Amazon to fire their SREs and stop deploying any new code to get better availability numbers!
    • JackFr 10y ago
      Banks get fined for data breaches. Regulators will also fine banks for not having clearly documented and auditable release procedures.
    • mistermann 10y ago
      > the existing company culture of Taylorism and sales where managers are worshipped for decision making. Is there an actual word for this type of management stupidity?
• ryandrake 10y ago
  I'd define one of the dividing lines between small company and big company as "where you start needing to get approval to do the basic parts of your job". Not saying one is better than the other, just that all companies seem to go through this period where you start needing forms filled and approval E-mails to do more and more. Sometimes for good reasons, sometimes not.
  • tracker1 10y ago
    It's when it takes weeks for something that should be rubber-stamp approved it becomes more of an issue... For the record, I'm currently working at a financial institution, worked at another previously, and moving into a position with a medical industry company. It's a matter of striking a balance.. and there are others that cope with it far better than I do. I still find it funny, when you have full github proper access, but can't access gists... and then when searching for things, a lot of programming examples, and even blog articles reference gists... that is painfully stupid.