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This basically says you don't value people. You want them to go through all of the effort for you. You say that replying to everyone isn't a good use of your t

This basically says you don't value people. You want them to go through all of the effort for you. You say that replying to everyone isn't a good use of your time, but having to apply to everyone, with the likelihood of being ignored apparently is a good use of my time ? My time is just as valuable as yours. The Github idea is great... except there's no way I can magic up a project 'relevant to the company' for all of the applications I'm making - which I have to be making because nobody replies any more. I'm certainly looking to get some projects going in my spare time, which is minimal. I'm too old to 'stand' out - if 20 years of programming isn't enough to get a more personal interview, then I'll just move on - I have no interest in competing with people from a marketing perspective. Of course, I don't expect us to agree, as we're coming from completely different sides (and requirements). In the modern world, it's amazing how many old-school (Business time is more valuable than employee) mindsets still exist. Thanks for taking the time to reply though. I genuinely do appreciate that.

aaronchall 10y ago
> My time is just as valuable as yours. The co-founder's time is worth what? They just got investors to hand them millions of dollars over a few meetings, on the assumption that if successful, they'll be worth hundreds of millions one day. You are one of dozens of applicants. Some guys with 20 years have the problem that it was the same year over and over. How do they know your skills are even current and relevant? If you're an experienced programmer, maybe you're going to make $50 to $100 an hour (depending on your market). But if you're applying to multiple firms, wouldn't you put yourself to work at that opportunity cost to differentiate yourself enough to get the job you want? Why wouldn't you be willing to jump through whatever hoops necessary to get the job you want?
- sangnoir 10y ago
  > on the assumption that if successful, they'll be worth hundreds of millions one day. Building good relationships is a good foundation for future success. I have had interviews that didn't result in me getting/accepting an offer, but the process was smooth and the decision amicable that I look forward to meeting/cooperate with/work with the same people in the future when the stars align. On the flip side, I have had interactions so terrible I won't ever consider working/meeting with or recommending the companies and the people involved, should they move on. It's a small world.
- mobiuscog 10y ago
  >Why wouldn't you be willing to jump through whatever hoops necessary to get the job you want? Because I'm not a performing animal.

aaronchall 10y ago

> My time is just as valuable as yours. The co-founder's time is worth what? They just got investors to hand them millions of dollars over a few meetings, on the assumption that if successful, they'll be worth hundreds of millions one day. You are one of dozens of applicants. Some guys with 20 years have the problem that it was the same year over and over. How do they know your skills are even current and relevant? If you're an experienced programmer, maybe you're going to make $50 to $100 an hour (depending on your market). But if you're applying to multiple firms, wouldn't you put yourself to work at that opportunity cost to differentiate yourself enough to get the job you want? Why wouldn't you be willing to jump through whatever hoops necessary to get the job you want?

sangnoir 10y ago
> on the assumption that if successful, they'll be worth hundreds of millions one day. Building good relationships is a good foundation for future success. I have had interviews that didn't result in me getting/accepting an offer, but the process was smooth and the decision amicable that I look forward to meeting/cooperate with/work with the same people in the future when the stars align. On the flip side, I have had interactions so terrible I won't ever consider working/meeting with or recommending the companies and the people involved, should they move on. It's a small world.
mobiuscog 10y ago
>Why wouldn't you be willing to jump through whatever hoops necessary to get the job you want? Because I'm not a performing animal.