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And that is related to which part of my post, because I do not see the connection? I didn't mention Windows. And good luck with wrestling with Windows doing UNI

And that is related to which part of my post, because I do not see the connection? I didn't mention Windows. And good luck with wrestling with Windows doing UNIX things. It had it, but it was not comparable to Linux and BSDs. Now it is better situation, much better, but still I would rather spin some BSD based system in VM, than try and use Ubuntu through WSL.

my123 10y ago
SUA(SubSystem for Unix-based Applications) is litterally a BSD fork...
- zymhan 10y ago
  You mean the Unix subsystem they made just to claim POSIX compatibility, that they totally abandoned in recent Windows versions?
  - JdeBP 10y ago
    No, xe does not. The subsystem that was made just to claim POSIX compatibility was the subsystem that preceded Interix. Interix was developed outwith Microsoft, and replaced the old POSIX subsystem. It was Windows NT's second POSIX subsystem, and it very much is not just a sop for the sake of checking a requirements checkbox. It's a fairly usable POSIX environment, with a large toolset, proper terminal emulations, pseudo-terminals, interoperability with non-POSIX processes including visibility with (an enhanced) ps and the ability to send signals to Win32 processes, an actual init and inetd, and an X server. Stephen Walli has stated that it started as a fork of 4.4BSD-Lite. * https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11560510 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11560510 * https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11416392 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11416392
wvenable 10y ago
My Ubuntu VM hasn't been spun up since I started using WSL. I've encountered a few bugs with WSL but it works amazingly well even for GUI apps.
- Philipp__ 10y ago
  I didn't like Ubuntu even back then when Linux was my main workspace. Used Gentoo and Arch most of the time, Ubuntu felt like too much everything for my taste. Is it possible to use other Linux distros through WSL?
  - my123 10y ago
    yes, an Arch port to WSL was written
- pritambaral 10y ago
  > it works amazingly well even for GUI apps. Could you elaborate on how you run GUI apps? Is it through some Xorg compiled for Windows? Can you use hardware-assisted OpenGL from WSL?
- petecox 10y ago
  The Darling FAQ mentions it's Linux-only and that a BSD port would be plausible but a Windows version would take a lot more effort. So I'm wondering how much of the software requires 'Linux' per se or rather just relies on a GNUserspace such as Ubuntu. It might be an interesting test case of WSL compatibility for Canonical/MS programmers to get this working. (although wasn't MS working on some sort of iOS bridge for WP10, in the case of Darwin-based programs?)

my123 10y ago

SUA(SubSystem for Unix-based Applications) is litterally a BSD fork...

zymhan 10y ago
You mean the Unix subsystem they made just to claim POSIX compatibility, that they totally abandoned in recent Windows versions?
- JdeBP 10y ago
  No, xe does not. The subsystem that was made just to claim POSIX compatibility was the subsystem that preceded Interix. Interix was developed outwith Microsoft, and replaced the old POSIX subsystem. It was Windows NT's second POSIX subsystem, and it very much is not just a sop for the sake of checking a requirements checkbox. It's a fairly usable POSIX environment, with a large toolset, proper terminal emulations, pseudo-terminals, interoperability with non-POSIX processes including visibility with (an enhanced) ps and the ability to send signals to Win32 processes, an actual init and inetd, and an X server. Stephen Walli has stated that it started as a fork of 4.4BSD-Lite. * https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11560510 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11560510 * https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11416392 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11416392

wvenable 10y ago

My Ubuntu VM hasn't been spun up since I started using WSL. I've encountered a few bugs with WSL but it works amazingly well even for GUI apps.

Philipp__ 10y ago
I didn't like Ubuntu even back then when Linux was my main workspace. Used Gentoo and Arch most of the time, Ubuntu felt like too much everything for my taste. Is it possible to use other Linux distros through WSL?
- my123 10y ago
  yes, an Arch port to WSL was written
pritambaral 10y ago
> it works amazingly well even for GUI apps. Could you elaborate on how you run GUI apps? Is it through some Xorg compiled for Windows? Can you use hardware-assisted OpenGL from WSL?
petecox 10y ago
The Darling FAQ mentions it's Linux-only and that a BSD port would be plausible but a Windows version would take a lot more effort. So I'm wondering how much of the software requires 'Linux' per se or rather just relies on a GNUserspace such as Ubuntu. It might be an interesting test case of WSL compatibility for Canonical/MS programmers to get this working. (although wasn't MS working on some sort of iOS bridge for WP10, in the case of Darwin-based programs?)