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When Office 365 came out, I mostly compared the price to Google Apps and didn't really think Office 365 brought that much value. Now, you can have a Google App

When Office 365 came out, I mostly compared the price to Google Apps and didn't really think Office 365 brought that much value. Now, you can have a Google Apps, Slack, Trello, and Evernote alternative for your business under one subscription. Even if you choose the plan for installed Office applications on your computer, the price is still much more attractive than having to get a subscription for every one of the competitors. Edit: They even have a Zapier and IFTTT competitor: https://flow.microsoft.com/en-us/ https://flow.microsoft.com/en-us/

j1vms 10y ago
> Now, you can have a Google Apps, Slack, Trello, and Evernote alternative for your business under one subscription. Actually you made a great case for why these guys should partner, integrate their products in a clean, natural way, and then make it as easy as ever for existing and new customers to hop onto all at once -- combo SaaS.
basch 10y ago
PowerBI and Skype PSTN/PBX and OneDrive/SharePoint too.
pzenger 10y ago
What is the Trello alternative?
- zengr 10y ago
  Planner https://products.office.com/en-us/business/office-365-planner https://products.office.com/en-us/business/office-365-planne...
- chrishas35 10y ago
  Planner. https://products.office.com/en-us/business/office-365-planner https://products.office.com/en-us/business/office-365-planne...
- sumitgt 10y ago
  Microsoft Planner I guess
- icu 10y ago
  kantree.io I actually changed from Trello premium to Kantree.io on the strength of it's offering and the easy import from Trello.
- deleted 10y ago
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boundlessdreamz 10y ago
The only problem is the products I have tried on mac (OneNote, OneDrive) & Android (OneNote) were very buggy/slow/missing features in other platforms. I wish it was otherwise. As you said, they do have a good suite of apps at a fair price
- sz4kerto 10y ago
  Really? OneNote lacking features?
  - thesimpsons1022 10y ago
    probably means the buggy part. i worked at microsoft and one note worked great on windows but was shit on my mac. it wouldn't even sync properly
    - boundlessdreamz 10y ago
      There are lot of missing features too - See "Key OneNote Features from Windows Missing on Mac" http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/essential-guide-onenote-mac/ http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/essential-guide-onenote-mac/ It was extremely slow and buggy on android. It wouldn't sync
      - majewsky 10y ago
        This is part of [1] why I won't be getting another Macbook when work gives me a notebook, and go back to Windows instead. Our IT relies on a lot of Microsoft stuff (Office, Exchange, Skype for Business, etc.) and that works much better under Windows. 1 A notable feature that we're missing on Macs is recording in Skype for Business (aka Lync) meetings. We only have two Windows notebooks in our team of 20, so we have to rely on them joining every important meeting to capture a recording. [1] Another part of the decision is WSL, which might enable me to abolish my work VM.
    - monkmartinez 10y ago
      Have you used it lately? Works very well on my 10.11.x Mac... I also use a Asus Vivo note 8, and Samsung Galaxy Note 3 (my old work horse) and they all sync perfectly... at least now they do.
delegate 10y ago
> Now, you can have a Google Apps, Slack, Trello, and Evernote alternative for your business under one subscription. Long term/philosophically this is is unwise, because you're locking your business' data into one company and then it dictates the direction in which your ideas can expand. Google Apps aside, all these apps are developed by highly creative and agile (fast) companies. MS is just an executive switch away from being a monolithic elephant once again..
- evilDagmar 10y ago
  Oh don't worry. I'm sure the first right of refusal agreements Microsoft has with their larger customers will ensure plenty of people will switch from whatever else they've been using, whether they like it or not.
Touche 10y ago
Whats funny is that Google Wave was basically a direct predecessor to these types of apps and they killed it before the technology really had a chance to catch up to the vision.
- gremlinsinc 10y ago
  I never really thought of it like that, but you're absolutely right! IF only they'd followed through and tweaked their vision.. of what google wave was, or pivoted in the right way.
- Analemma_ 10y ago
  Yes! I'm so glad somebody else remembers Wave, it seems to have disappeared into the dustbin of history. I loved Wave before it was killed, and while I know a lot of people still hold grudges over Reader, Wave is the axed Google product I miss most. The fact that you could have multiple threaded conversations in the same chat room was one of the best features for me, and Teams seems like the first descendant to have that. That alone is a plus over Slack.
  - addicted 10y ago
    Ah, wave. I wish instead of just throwing it at the world, hoping for people to figure out what to do with it, Google had used it as infrastructure to build a variety of applications. The problem with Wave was that it was too open ended for most people to figure out. Those who did figure out, loved it, and were burnt when Google shut it down. I still don't think there is a good equivalent to wave at the moment.
    - Analemma_ 10y ago
      > The problem with Wave was that it was too open ended for most people to figure out. Those who did figure out, loved it, and were burnt when Google shut it down. Yeah, this tallies with my experience. I was in two separate Wave teams (Waves?), one for a six-person software team and one for a large-ish social group of non-technical people. The software team took to it immediately and loved it; the social group was mostly baffled and used it sparingly. If Google had only iterated on it they'd be a in a great spot right now, but I guess eventually every big technology company has their "Microsoft moment" when they kill a product only to see that category take off years later.
user5994461 10y ago
> When Office 365 came out, I mostly compared the price to Google Apps and didn't really think Office 365 brought that much value. Opposite here. Forced to use Google Apps to write documents and it's a pain in the arse. Wish I had Office.
thr0waway1239 10y ago
By that measure, SharePoint is also an alternative to a lot of things, but it is universally reviled. But your comment made me wonder about the problem of building a company which becomes a feature of a bigger competitor: I wonder what the folks at Slack, Trello and Evernote think about this new competition. Is this going to actually compete head on?

j1vms 10y ago

> Now, you can have a Google Apps, Slack, Trello, and Evernote alternative for your business under one subscription. Actually you made a great case for why these guys should partner, integrate their products in a clean, natural way, and then make it as easy as ever for existing and new customers to hop onto all at once -- combo SaaS.

basch 10y ago

PowerBI and Skype PSTN/PBX and OneDrive/SharePoint too.

pzenger 10y ago

What is the Trello alternative?

zengr 10y ago
Planner https://products.office.com/en-us/business/office-365-planner https://products.office.com/en-us/business/office-365-planne...
chrishas35 10y ago
Planner. https://products.office.com/en-us/business/office-365-planner https://products.office.com/en-us/business/office-365-planne...
sumitgt 10y ago
Microsoft Planner I guess
icu 10y ago
kantree.io I actually changed from Trello premium to Kantree.io on the strength of it's offering and the easy import from Trello.
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boundlessdreamz 10y ago

The only problem is the products I have tried on mac (OneNote, OneDrive) & Android (OneNote) were very buggy/slow/missing features in other platforms. I wish it was otherwise. As you said, they do have a good suite of apps at a fair price

sz4kerto 10y ago
Really? OneNote lacking features?
- thesimpsons1022 10y ago
  probably means the buggy part. i worked at microsoft and one note worked great on windows but was shit on my mac. it wouldn't even sync properly
  - boundlessdreamz 10y ago
    There are lot of missing features too - See "Key OneNote Features from Windows Missing on Mac" http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/essential-guide-onenote-mac/ http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/essential-guide-onenote-mac/ It was extremely slow and buggy on android. It wouldn't sync
    - majewsky 10y ago
      This is part of [1] why I won't be getting another Macbook when work gives me a notebook, and go back to Windows instead. Our IT relies on a lot of Microsoft stuff (Office, Exchange, Skype for Business, etc.) and that works much better under Windows. 1 A notable feature that we're missing on Macs is recording in Skype for Business (aka Lync) meetings. We only have two Windows notebooks in our team of 20, so we have to rely on them joining every important meeting to capture a recording. [1] Another part of the decision is WSL, which might enable me to abolish my work VM.
  - monkmartinez 10y ago
    Have you used it lately? Works very well on my 10.11.x Mac... I also use a Asus Vivo note 8, and Samsung Galaxy Note 3 (my old work horse) and they all sync perfectly... at least now they do.

delegate 10y ago

> Now, you can have a Google Apps, Slack, Trello, and Evernote alternative for your business under one subscription. Long term/philosophically this is is unwise, because you're locking your business' data into one company and then it dictates the direction in which your ideas can expand. Google Apps aside, all these apps are developed by highly creative and agile (fast) companies. MS is just an executive switch away from being a monolithic elephant once again..

evilDagmar 10y ago
Oh don't worry. I'm sure the first right of refusal agreements Microsoft has with their larger customers will ensure plenty of people will switch from whatever else they've been using, whether they like it or not.

Touche 10y ago

Whats funny is that Google Wave was basically a direct predecessor to these types of apps and they killed it before the technology really had a chance to catch up to the vision.

gremlinsinc 10y ago
I never really thought of it like that, but you're absolutely right! IF only they'd followed through and tweaked their vision.. of what google wave was, or pivoted in the right way.
Analemma_ 10y ago
Yes! I'm so glad somebody else remembers Wave, it seems to have disappeared into the dustbin of history. I loved Wave before it was killed, and while I know a lot of people still hold grudges over Reader, Wave is the axed Google product I miss most. The fact that you could have multiple threaded conversations in the same chat room was one of the best features for me, and Teams seems like the first descendant to have that. That alone is a plus over Slack.
- addicted 10y ago
  Ah, wave. I wish instead of just throwing it at the world, hoping for people to figure out what to do with it, Google had used it as infrastructure to build a variety of applications. The problem with Wave was that it was too open ended for most people to figure out. Those who did figure out, loved it, and were burnt when Google shut it down. I still don't think there is a good equivalent to wave at the moment.
  - Analemma_ 10y ago
    > The problem with Wave was that it was too open ended for most people to figure out. Those who did figure out, loved it, and were burnt when Google shut it down. Yeah, this tallies with my experience. I was in two separate Wave teams (Waves?), one for a six-person software team and one for a large-ish social group of non-technical people. The software team took to it immediately and loved it; the social group was mostly baffled and used it sparingly. If Google had only iterated on it they'd be a in a great spot right now, but I guess eventually every big technology company has their "Microsoft moment" when they kill a product only to see that category take off years later.

user5994461 10y ago

> When Office 365 came out, I mostly compared the price to Google Apps and didn't really think Office 365 brought that much value. Opposite here. Forced to use Google Apps to write documents and it's a pain in the arse. Wish I had Office.

thr0waway1239 10y ago

By that measure, SharePoint is also an alternative to a lot of things, but it is universally reviled. But your comment made me wonder about the problem of building a company which becomes a feature of a bigger competitor: I wonder what the folks at Slack, Trello and Evernote think about this new competition. Is this going to actually compete head on?