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What makes system76 laptops better than the XPS 13?

dagw 10y ago
Depends on what you care about. If you want are willing to sacrifice a bit of performance for longer battery life and lower weight, then the XPS 13 wins handily. If on the other hand you're willing to sacrifice (quite a lot of) battery life and accept (a lot) heavier weight in exchange for performance, then System 76 will sell you some of the fastest laptops money can buy.
- coldtea 10y ago
  >If on the other hand you're willing to sacrifice (quite a lot of) battery life and accept (a lot) heavier weight in exchange for performance Then you're not really into this mobility thing?
  - dagw 10y ago
    Mobility is relative. Back when I split my time between two offices and occasionally worked from home I would have loved to have a decently powerful workstation that I could easily transport in a backpack.
  - MatthewMcDonald 10y ago
    Mobility is relative. They may want desktop level performance that can be moved more easily than lugging around a tower/monitor/keyboard/mouse. Not everyone needs (or cares about) the ability to work away from a power source for more than a few hours.
vsgxvhdxh 10y ago
It is actually available to buy right now. The Xps 13 developer edition is not available and the Windows edition has different hardware which is not Linux compatible (WiFi).
- JonnieCache 10y ago
  >different hardware which is not Linux compatible (WiFi). link? I heard they had crappy broadcom chipsets but would be good to get some specific info. TBH the sites i looked at last night seemed to say the current hardware that ships with windows is well supported...
  - vsgxvhdxh 10y ago
    It used to be that you had to use Windows to update the bios and that grub didn't work so dual boot was not possible. Also broadcomm. Glad if that has changed!
- deadbunny 10y ago
  Can't speak for the xps13 but I got a xps15 (Windows, no Linux option) about 6 months ago and everything works as expected.
- kevinherron 10y ago
  Yes, it is available: http://www.dell.com/us/business/p/xps-13-9360-laptop/pd?3x_nav=OS_BRAND%3DUBUNT&3x_page=1&filterCollapsed=true http://www.dell.com/us/business/p/xps-13-9360-laptop/pd?3x_n...
  - vsgxvhdxh 10y ago
    Excellent I've been trying to buy one for a while. Now to find it in the UK site...
matzipan 10y ago
Not much. Both System76 and Dell's Sputnik spend quite a bit of time getting good support for their laptops under Linux. I personally think XPS has a much better design for a laptop.

dagw 10y ago

Depends on what you care about. If you want are willing to sacrifice a bit of performance for longer battery life and lower weight, then the XPS 13 wins handily. If on the other hand you're willing to sacrifice (quite a lot of) battery life and accept (a lot) heavier weight in exchange for performance, then System 76 will sell you some of the fastest laptops money can buy.

coldtea 10y ago
>If on the other hand you're willing to sacrifice (quite a lot of) battery life and accept (a lot) heavier weight in exchange for performance Then you're not really into this mobility thing?
- dagw 10y ago
  Mobility is relative. Back when I split my time between two offices and occasionally worked from home I would have loved to have a decently powerful workstation that I could easily transport in a backpack.
- MatthewMcDonald 10y ago
  Mobility is relative. They may want desktop level performance that can be moved more easily than lugging around a tower/monitor/keyboard/mouse. Not everyone needs (or cares about) the ability to work away from a power source for more than a few hours.

vsgxvhdxh 10y ago

It is actually available to buy right now. The Xps 13 developer edition is not available and the Windows edition has different hardware which is not Linux compatible (WiFi).

JonnieCache 10y ago
>different hardware which is not Linux compatible (WiFi). link? I heard they had crappy broadcom chipsets but would be good to get some specific info. TBH the sites i looked at last night seemed to say the current hardware that ships with windows is well supported...
- vsgxvhdxh 10y ago
  It used to be that you had to use Windows to update the bios and that grub didn't work so dual boot was not possible. Also broadcomm. Glad if that has changed!
deadbunny 10y ago
Can't speak for the xps13 but I got a xps15 (Windows, no Linux option) about 6 months ago and everything works as expected.
kevinherron 10y ago
Yes, it is available: http://www.dell.com/us/business/p/xps-13-9360-laptop/pd?3x_nav=OS_BRAND%3DUBUNT&3x_page=1&filterCollapsed=true http://www.dell.com/us/business/p/xps-13-9360-laptop/pd?3x_n...
- vsgxvhdxh 10y ago
  Excellent I've been trying to buy one for a while. Now to find it in the UK site...

matzipan 10y ago

Not much. Both System76 and Dell's Sputnik spend quite a bit of time getting good support for their laptops under Linux. I personally think XPS has a much better design for a laptop.