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Yep, it worked out really well for Israel, because all of the Irgun gangs became statesmen or respected military leaders.
by finid 10y ago
Yep, it worked out really well for Israel, because all of the Irgun gangs became statesmen or respected military leaders.
- Joeboy 10y agoThe same happened, so some extent, to Nelson Mandela, Gerry Adams, Yasser Arafat and probably many others.
- finid 10y agoYou put Nelson Mandela in that group! While you're at it, why not add Mahatma Gandhi
- Joeboy 10y agoBecause Gandhi was a pacifist and Mandela advocated armed struggle, and led an organisation that bombed civilians. Mandela's reputation as a man of peace is based on the fact he pivoted from a violent strategy to a political one, not on his being a pacifist. Edit: The fact that you and others are outraged by the idea Mandela was a terrorist sort of proves the point. The path to respect, statesmanship, Nobel Peace Prizes and sainthood often starts with violence.
- notahacker 10y agoNelson Mandela cofounded and chaired the ANC's paramilitary wing. He might have proved to be a superb statesman and the ANC might have had no practical alternative to violent action, but he definitely belongs more in that company than Gandhi's. If anything it's Adams, who has always denied direct involvement with the IRA even if those claims aren't widely believed, that might have cause for complaint at not being considered merely a politician.