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Except 3G and 4G is ridiculously costly if you want a reasonable amount of data without taking on a 2 year contract. I live in Berlin and the Germans I talk to

Except 3G and 4G is ridiculously costly if you want a reasonable amount of data without taking on a 2 year contract. I live in Berlin and the Germans I talk to about this usually don't see a problem. I moved here from the Nordics so you could say I'm spoiled but I think it's reasonable to have near unlimited data so that I can actually watch YouTube/Spotify/Netflix without worrying that it'll make me unreachable on Whatsapp/Messenger when I'm out and about. Public access points would be great in Berlin (can't say for other cities) for sure, but they'd have to change that stupid law where the owner of a connection (say, a café) is persecuted if one of its visitors do something illegal on their connection.

pjmlp 10y ago
I have 1 GB per month on a O2 pre-paid card in Germany. That is a reasonable amount of data for me. Also that law applies to everyone with an wlan router, not just coffee owners.
- mullsork 10y ago
  > Also that law applies to everyone with an wlan router, not just coffee owners. Very true. I'm only really thinking about it when I try out a new café that doesn't have WIFI. I used to have 1GB on Blau. I'm trying desperately to cut all ties and get some money back from them but they're horrible, that's another story though. In any case I've been paying about 10e for 1GB per month. Yes I can live it for sure, I often don't even go beyond 600Mb per month. With unlimited data I would use my phone a lot differently though. I'd likely stream Audible Channels if I got the urge or found something interesting while on train, maybe I'd watch something on YT or check out new music. Because of these expensive limited plans I'm not using my phone a lot. It's both a good thing but also a bit sad I think. I'm very much ranting here, sorry for that. It's just weird coming from unlimited data that you pay 15e/month for (4G unlimited mind you) to this thing. Friends at home regularly surpass 10Gb per month because they're streaming music constantly. Some even use their phones as the only internet connection they have, skipping landlines entirely!

pjmlp 10y ago

I have 1 GB per month on a O2 pre-paid card in Germany. That is a reasonable amount of data for me. Also that law applies to everyone with an wlan router, not just coffee owners.

mullsork 10y ago
> Also that law applies to everyone with an wlan router, not just coffee owners. Very true. I'm only really thinking about it when I try out a new café that doesn't have WIFI. I used to have 1GB on Blau. I'm trying desperately to cut all ties and get some money back from them but they're horrible, that's another story though. In any case I've been paying about 10e for 1GB per month. Yes I can live it for sure, I often don't even go beyond 600Mb per month. With unlimited data I would use my phone a lot differently though. I'd likely stream Audible Channels if I got the urge or found something interesting while on train, maybe I'd watch something on YT or check out new music. Because of these expensive limited plans I'm not using my phone a lot. It's both a good thing but also a bit sad I think. I'm very much ranting here, sorry for that. It's just weird coming from unlimited data that you pay 15e/month for (4G unlimited mind you) to this thing. Friends at home regularly surpass 10Gb per month because they're streaming music constantly. Some even use their phones as the only internet connection they have, skipping landlines entirely!