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I don't think Facebook ever grokked the concept of multiple personas - LinkedIn is for my work persona, Steam (and Origin, Twitch etc) is for my gaming persona,

I don't think Facebook ever grokked the concept of multiple personas - LinkedIn is for my work persona, Steam (and Origin, Twitch etc) is for my gaming persona, and on Twitter I can have different accounts for each. As long as Facebook requires a single account with real identity, it will never be anything more than for my family & acquaintances persona. Most gamers I know feel the same... maybe we're in the minority, but maybe not. Be interesting to know how many Steam accounts are linked with Facebook as an indication of how this might play out (aside from the potential for exclusive titles etc).

qq66 10y ago
As a counterpoint, for the few games I do play, I far prefer to use my real Facebook identity. Words with Friends in particular is most fun when I'm playing against my real friends. I also really like QuizUp.
- exodust 10y ago
  Dinky little mobile games like words with friends fall into a different category than pc games. They are time-killers, and your gaming identity is not tied to an avatar that kicks ass in a virtual world. Your real identity for mobile games is simply to make finding someone to play the dinky game with easier on your phone.
  - intended 10y ago
    The part which should bother a real world gamer is the MBA marketing pitch which goes: "CONNECTING TO FACEBOOK, THE EA WAY. Real world studies have shown that people are x% less likely to act out of troll if their real world ID is known With Facebook we get significantly more targeting data or our demographics and potentially data on their income/parents."
  - qq66 10y ago
    I understand this, but this is a big gaming category, and may be the ultimate place that Facebook Gameroom succeeds in.
throwawaylalala 10y ago
Did they? Or do they not care?
DannyBee 10y ago
I don't think you are a minority. the average gamer on a given popular game is usually going on about how fat your mom is in between rounds or on chat or whatever (it's worse than this, of course, i'm being nice). Somehow, i don't think they are going to be up for tying that to their real identity. There are two possibilities. This either massively improves the discourse on games like COD and the equivalent of every xbox live game ever. Or, people don't use it, because they don't want that. I"m going to go with the second. Put another way: can you imagine the average gamer in COD wanting to tie their character "XXXAyeCarambeHarambeXXX420 to their real identity?
- kevhsu 10y ago
  These rude 'average gamers' you speak of are the vocal minority in my experience... Most of us are normal people.
  - striking 10y ago
    Average gamers in CoD are not average gamers. So there's that.
    - DannyBee 10y ago
      Pick any triple A title with multiplayer.
      - malnourish 10y ago
        Haven't noticed this at all on Titanfall 2 (pc)
  - DannyBee 10y ago
    In what game, precisely? Seriously, these platforms are all known for it. I've pretty most major triple-a multiplayer titles in the past 15 years, and they are all like this. Do normal people exist? Sure. Are they the majority? Uh, no. :) It's not even a close contest. This is even pretty easy to see. Pick 100 random top youtube videos of these games. Count the amount of racism, what have you going on in voice chat, team chat, whatever. I say 100 just so one doesn't say "well, it's just these guys". It's everyone.
robryan 10y ago
They are likely aware of this but know it would be too hard to get enough traction for a new brand. If they were really serious about it they would probably have to buy something with traction. They actually already run one via Oculus.
Retra 10y ago
I have multiple disparate 'personas' largely because I consider myself to be a fairly creative intellectual who is prone to considering and defending unpopular opinions that require nuance and maturity to understand. And I don't want some psychotic teenager thinking they're doing the world a favor by tracking me down and murdering me because they can't handle verbal disagreement appropriately.
- colechristensen 10y ago
  Everything you said there is reasonable, but the way you expressed it is very off putting.
  - Retra 10y ago
    Everything I say is off-putting to someone. I'm inclined say your comment is off-putting, but I'm actually fine with letting people feel what they feel without leveraging emotional obligations at, or demanding hedging-rituals or pointless niceties from each other. Though this criticism is really just a difference of culture: the ability to separate the useful truths from pleasant feelings is a high virtue where I come from.
  - vegabook 10y ago
    I don't get it. What's off putting to you about this?
salemh 10y ago
Netflix's change from their own review system to FaceBook killed it for me and angered their user base (which didn't effect them of course). Facebook definately doesn't get the idea of different social landscapes for different aspects of life. https://www.cnet.com/how-to/get-to-know-netflix-and-its-new-facebook-integration/ https://www.cnet.com/how-to/get-to-know-netflix-and-its-new-...

qq66 10y ago

As a counterpoint, for the few games I do play, I far prefer to use my real Facebook identity. Words with Friends in particular is most fun when I'm playing against my real friends. I also really like QuizUp.

exodust 10y ago
Dinky little mobile games like words with friends fall into a different category than pc games. They are time-killers, and your gaming identity is not tied to an avatar that kicks ass in a virtual world. Your real identity for mobile games is simply to make finding someone to play the dinky game with easier on your phone.
- intended 10y ago
  The part which should bother a real world gamer is the MBA marketing pitch which goes: "CONNECTING TO FACEBOOK, THE EA WAY. Real world studies have shown that people are x% less likely to act out of troll if their real world ID is known With Facebook we get significantly more targeting data or our demographics and potentially data on their income/parents."
- qq66 10y ago
  I understand this, but this is a big gaming category, and may be the ultimate place that Facebook Gameroom succeeds in.

throwawaylalala 10y ago

Did they? Or do they not care?

DannyBee 10y ago

I don't think you are a minority. the average gamer on a given popular game is usually going on about how fat your mom is in between rounds or on chat or whatever (it's worse than this, of course, i'm being nice). Somehow, i don't think they are going to be up for tying that to their real identity. There are two possibilities. This either massively improves the discourse on games like COD and the equivalent of every xbox live game ever. Or, people don't use it, because they don't want that. I"m going to go with the second. Put another way: can you imagine the average gamer in COD wanting to tie their character "XXXAyeCarambeHarambeXXX420 to their real identity?

kevhsu 10y ago
These rude 'average gamers' you speak of are the vocal minority in my experience... Most of us are normal people.
- striking 10y ago
  Average gamers in CoD are not average gamers. So there's that.
  - DannyBee 10y ago
    Pick any triple A title with multiplayer.
    - malnourish 10y ago
      Haven't noticed this at all on Titanfall 2 (pc)
- DannyBee 10y ago
  In what game, precisely? Seriously, these platforms are all known for it. I've pretty most major triple-a multiplayer titles in the past 15 years, and they are all like this. Do normal people exist? Sure. Are they the majority? Uh, no. :) It's not even a close contest. This is even pretty easy to see. Pick 100 random top youtube videos of these games. Count the amount of racism, what have you going on in voice chat, team chat, whatever. I say 100 just so one doesn't say "well, it's just these guys". It's everyone.

robryan 10y ago

They are likely aware of this but know it would be too hard to get enough traction for a new brand. If they were really serious about it they would probably have to buy something with traction. They actually already run one via Oculus.

Retra 10y ago

I have multiple disparate 'personas' largely because I consider myself to be a fairly creative intellectual who is prone to considering and defending unpopular opinions that require nuance and maturity to understand. And I don't want some psychotic teenager thinking they're doing the world a favor by tracking me down and murdering me because they can't handle verbal disagreement appropriately.

colechristensen 10y ago
Everything you said there is reasonable, but the way you expressed it is very off putting.
- Retra 10y ago
  Everything I say is off-putting to someone. I'm inclined say your comment is off-putting, but I'm actually fine with letting people feel what they feel without leveraging emotional obligations at, or demanding hedging-rituals or pointless niceties from each other. Though this criticism is really just a difference of culture: the ability to separate the useful truths from pleasant feelings is a high virtue where I come from.
- vegabook 10y ago
  I don't get it. What's off putting to you about this?

salemh 10y ago

Netflix's change from their own review system to FaceBook killed it for me and angered their user base (which didn't effect them of course). Facebook definately doesn't get the idea of different social landscapes for different aspects of life. https://www.cnet.com/how-to/get-to-know-netflix-and-its-new-facebook-integration/ https://www.cnet.com/how-to/get-to-know-netflix-and-its-new-...