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Can you elaborate on the unusability of Terminal.app? It's one of my most used apps and I have no issue with it. Also, I didn't know many of these until recen

Can you elaborate on the unusability of Terminal.app? It's one of my most used apps and I have no issue with it. Also, I didn't know many of these until recently: http://mjtsai.com/blog/2016/09/26/mac-terminal-tips/ http://mjtsai.com/blog/2016/09/26/mac-terminal-tips/

realusername 10y ago
It looks like this if I remember? http://www.thewwwblog.com/images/apple/traceroute-terminal-app.png http://www.thewwwblog.com/images/apple/traceroute-terminal-a... So the contrast is to bright, there is no tabs either from what I remember, The font itself looks bad, is not anti-aliased and also everything is way too small by default. It looks like some kind of 80's monitor that got somehow transformed into an app. Actually, to find this image I just typed "osx terminal.app" on Google and the first two results where already to replace it with another alternative so I don't think it's really popular.
- klodolph 10y ago
  I remember that it looked like that, by default, 10 years ago. It can be customized very easily and comes with a few different themes out of the box, you can add your own. It has had tabs for a while.
- qzervaas 10y ago
  It's quite easy to customise. A lot of people's complaints are along the lines of "no bookmarks manager", but while not UI-friendly, ~/.ssh/config is as powerful as it gets.
- Jtsummers 10y ago
  The default terminal in linux used to be quite ugly as well, seems unfair to compare the defaults from years ago to the current status in either. I came to OS X in 2006 (grad school, prior laptop had just kicked the bucket, a new battery was a couple hundred, and it was dog slow anyways being a ~2003 laptop three years later (hardware moved much faster back then)). So that was OS X 10.4. Terminal.app suited me just fine. The default was indeed ugly, but that was quickly remedied. I don't recall when they got tabs, but as a screen (now tmux) guy, that never bothered me. I've personally never understood the desire for multiple tabs when a better solution existed that didn't take up big chunks of your (especially on a laptop) limited screen real estate.
  - danudey 10y ago
    Launch an XTerm and you can see how awful terminals can truly be.
- Zarel 10y ago
  I usually use iTerm, but I just opened Terminal and it looks like this: http://i.imgur.com/JPSgL9K.png http://i.imgur.com/JPSgL9K.png contrast: perfect font: pretty good anti-aliased: yes size: not way too small tabs: yes Really, the only reason I use iTerm instead of Terminal is because TotalTerminal dropped support for newer versions of macOS.

realusername 10y ago

It looks like this if I remember? http://www.thewwwblog.com/images/apple/traceroute-terminal-app.png http://www.thewwwblog.com/images/apple/traceroute-terminal-a... So the contrast is to bright, there is no tabs either from what I remember, The font itself looks bad, is not anti-aliased and also everything is way too small by default. It looks like some kind of 80's monitor that got somehow transformed into an app. Actually, to find this image I just typed "osx terminal.app" on Google and the first two results where already to replace it with another alternative so I don't think it's really popular.

klodolph 10y ago
I remember that it looked like that, by default, 10 years ago. It can be customized very easily and comes with a few different themes out of the box, you can add your own. It has had tabs for a while.
qzervaas 10y ago
It's quite easy to customise. A lot of people's complaints are along the lines of "no bookmarks manager", but while not UI-friendly, ~/.ssh/config is as powerful as it gets.
Jtsummers 10y ago
The default terminal in linux used to be quite ugly as well, seems unfair to compare the defaults from years ago to the current status in either. I came to OS X in 2006 (grad school, prior laptop had just kicked the bucket, a new battery was a couple hundred, and it was dog slow anyways being a ~2003 laptop three years later (hardware moved much faster back then)). So that was OS X 10.4. Terminal.app suited me just fine. The default was indeed ugly, but that was quickly remedied. I don't recall when they got tabs, but as a screen (now tmux) guy, that never bothered me. I've personally never understood the desire for multiple tabs when a better solution existed that didn't take up big chunks of your (especially on a laptop) limited screen real estate.
- danudey 10y ago
  Launch an XTerm and you can see how awful terminals can truly be.
Zarel 10y ago
I usually use iTerm, but I just opened Terminal and it looks like this: http://i.imgur.com/JPSgL9K.png http://i.imgur.com/JPSgL9K.png contrast: perfect font: pretty good anti-aliased: yes size: not way too small tabs: yes Really, the only reason I use iTerm instead of Terminal is because TotalTerminal dropped support for newer versions of macOS.