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Yes it does and that's not what seems to bother people about the death penalty. It's the act of killing that tugs on their heartstrings. They happily ignore the

Yes it does and that's not what seems to bother people about the death penalty. It's the act of killing that tugs on their heartstrings. They happily ignore the millions serving decades in prison because they didn't have the basic requirements to lead a good life. The agenda is: 1. End the death penalty. 2. Assume someone else will help innocent people, which they largely won't. 3. Go bad to enjoying blissful ignorance.

Karunamon 10y ago
Does this entire chain of comments have any purpose or goal other than the same old tired "shame the rich" meme that gets so much play? PG thinks the death penalty is bad, but PG isn't worried enough about other things you think are worse, therefore PG is wrong? (???) I honestly don't see where you're going with this other than cheap sniping.
- bolocker 10y ago
  He's like someone who is anti-abortion but doesn't worry at all about people after they exit the womb. They're lying when they say they actually care about life. In reality, they just care about how abortion makes them feel. He's anti-death penalty in the same way. The orders of magnitude more suffering in our prison system can't get a tweet but the nearly disused California death penalty urgently bothers him...
  - Karunamon 10y ago
    So no, it has no other purpose other than insulting.
fauigerzigerk 10y ago
>Yes it does and that's not what seems to bother people about the death penalty It does seem to bother Paul Graham as he writes "The police often arrest the wrong person. Defendants' lawyers are often incompetent."
- bolocker 10y ago
  Clearly not, since that argument applies far more strongly to non-death penalty cases where there is far less scrutiny. It's also clearly an argument intended for Other People who need pragmatic reasons for ending the death penalty. He is against it on purely ethical grounds, or in my opinion, because it makes him feel bad about himself.

Karunamon 10y ago

Does this entire chain of comments have any purpose or goal other than the same old tired "shame the rich" meme that gets so much play? PG thinks the death penalty is bad, but PG isn't worried enough about other things you think are worse, therefore PG is wrong? (???) I honestly don't see where you're going with this other than cheap sniping.

bolocker 10y ago
He's like someone who is anti-abortion but doesn't worry at all about people after they exit the womb. They're lying when they say they actually care about life. In reality, they just care about how abortion makes them feel. He's anti-death penalty in the same way. The orders of magnitude more suffering in our prison system can't get a tweet but the nearly disused California death penalty urgently bothers him...
- Karunamon 10y ago
  So no, it has no other purpose other than insulting.

fauigerzigerk 10y ago

>Yes it does and that's not what seems to bother people about the death penalty It does seem to bother Paul Graham as he writes "The police often arrest the wrong person. Defendants' lawyers are often incompetent."

bolocker 10y ago
Clearly not, since that argument applies far more strongly to non-death penalty cases where there is far less scrutiny. It's also clearly an argument intended for Other People who need pragmatic reasons for ending the death penalty. He is against it on purely ethical grounds, or in my opinion, because it makes him feel bad about himself.