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What's key about this is that Apple didn't make a laptop for hackers. It was a nice confluence of factors that made Macs attractive to hackers, but Apple never

by IBM 10y ago

What's key about this is that Apple didn't make a laptop for hackers. It was a nice confluence of factors that made Macs attractive to hackers, but Apple never set out to court them. You should keep that in mind if you're a hacker and you feel 'betrayed'. I've been seeing a lot of cringeworthy takes lately which basically amount to trying to guilt a corporation into making your ideal laptop. I can't find the link to it but one of them said something like "I'm an influencer too so you [Apple] should care that I'm switching!"

bluedino 10y ago
When they went with a Unix based OS, they did.
- IBM 10y ago
  Which is why it was a happy confluence of factors. Unix wasn't a call to action though, just an implementation detail.
elchief 10y ago
Sure but it wouldn't be that hard for them to keep macbook pro "pro", and it makes them money and earns them maven users
linguae 10y ago
At least before the iPhone era began, Apple has played up the fact that OS X has *nix roots in order to draw hackers to the Mac. Check out this switcher's testimonial from 2002: http://web.archive.org/web/20021030230932/http://www.apple.com/switch/stories/index2.html http://web.archive.org/web/20021030230932/http://www.apple.c... And another switcher story explicitly mentioning Unix: http://web.archive.org/web/20021031010139/http://www.apple.com/switch/stories/ http://web.archive.org/web/20021031010139/http://www.apple.c... And notice this from the tech specs of the Titanium PowerBook G4 circa 2002: "Whether you use a Mac, Windows, or UNIX system, your search for the world’s best high performance thin and light notebook computer is over." "Complementing this performance platform is Mac OS X—a supermodern operating system that combines the power and stability of UNIX with the elegance of Macintosh." http://web.archive.org/web/20021004151455/http://www.apple.com/powerbook/specs.html http://web.archive.org/web/20021004151455/http://www.apple.c... And don't forget about the former NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP users who more than likely migrated to the Mac in order for them to continue using an updated (if with a different UI) version of the operating system they loved.

by IBM 10y ago

bluedino 10y ago

When they went with a Unix based OS, they did.

IBM 10y ago
Which is why it was a happy confluence of factors. Unix wasn't a call to action though, just an implementation detail.

elchief 10y ago

Sure but it wouldn't be that hard for them to keep macbook pro "pro", and it makes them money and earns them maven users

linguae 10y ago

At least before the iPhone era began, Apple has played up the fact that OS X has *nix roots in order to draw hackers to the Mac. Check out this switcher's testimonial from 2002: http://web.archive.org/web/20021030230932/http://www.apple.com/switch/stories/index2.html http://web.archive.org/web/20021030230932/http://www.apple.c... And another switcher story explicitly mentioning Unix: http://web.archive.org/web/20021031010139/http://www.apple.com/switch/stories/ http://web.archive.org/web/20021031010139/http://www.apple.c... And notice this from the tech specs of the Titanium PowerBook G4 circa 2002: "Whether you use a Mac, Windows, or UNIX system, your search for the world’s best high performance thin and light notebook computer is over." "Complementing this performance platform is Mac OS X—a supermodern operating system that combines the power and stability of UNIX with the elegance of Macintosh." http://web.archive.org/web/20021004151455/http://www.apple.com/powerbook/specs.html http://web.archive.org/web/20021004151455/http://www.apple.c... And don't forget about the former NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP users who more than likely migrated to the Mac in order for them to continue using an updated (if with a different UI) version of the operating system they loved.