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I haven't seen a lot of arguments that the things he built were a positive in the end.

• CPLX 10y ago
  Then you haven't been to Jones Beach.
  • krschultz 10y ago
    I have, it's a nice venue, but there are lots of places to see a concert. I care a lot more about bulldozing the South Bronx.
    • CPLX 10y ago
      It's not a concert venue it's a beach. That was a hilarious answer. And I don't know you so I won't presume, but just about everyone who I've heard complain about Moses and the South Bronx has literally no relationship with the borough and couldn't name three major streets there. Moses did bad things to the south Bronx, and Sunset Park, and rail transit. He did amazing things with bridges, and democratized access to the shoreline. And many other things. Like I said, his legacy is complicated.
      • krschultz 10y ago
        Uhhhhh https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikon_at_Jones_Beach_Theater https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikon_at_Jones_Beach_Theater The beach existed long before Moses, and he didn't exactly invent the idea of going to the beach.
        • CPLX 10y ago
          Yeah no. Actually the beach didn't exist before Moses, it was a marshy island. He literally created it in the 20's. Read the history section here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jones_Beach_State_Park https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jones_Beach_State_Park Public accessible beaches and parks for hemmed in city dwellers back then in the era of tenements and no air conditioning were not at all common, creating something like Jones Beach was a major public good. The story of Moses's contributions is generally one of incredible progress and public good in the first era of his career, followed by an increasing descent into arrogance and lust for power that was ultimately highly destructive in many cases. It's an interesting and nuanced story. Were you to know the first thing about it you'd likely agree.